From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, moasenwood@zoho.eu
Subject: Emacs i18n
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:02:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-fb5461d3-59c5-45c4-ae6c-8780d9c1ac9c-1626886946165@3c-app-mailcom-bs16> (raw)
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> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 12:56 AM
> From: "Jean Louis" <bugs@gnu.support>
> To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, moasenwood@zoho.eu
> Subject: Re: Emacs i18n
>
> * Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> [2021-07-21 11:29]:
> > > > And all over the world, a lot of students who do not feel
> > > > confident with English treat the lack of available
> > > > translations as a significant hurdle, or even a barrier.
> >
> > This would not solve the problem of doing real work. Nobody
> > would care about that piece of software if not written in english.
>
> To contrary I think many would have benefits with software written in
> their language.
>
> > I wonder how we never got any programming languages not in the
> > english language.
>
> Here are some references in the list:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-English-based_programming_languages
>
> > Because all those people were either living in the United States or
> > the United Kingdom.
>
> Because the computer science is based in English countries.
>
> > Could be that the French are still in denial in accepting such fact.
> > They were the original developers and authors of computing
> > technology.
>
> French based programming languages are: Logo, RoboMind, Catrobat,
> AppleScript, ALGOL 68, GOTO++, Linotte, LSE, BASICOIS, SPIP, 4th
> Dimension, so that is all from the above reference.
>
> I find the idea of translating programming language very
> important.
It is the same problem of translating english publications to other languages.
Rarely happens. Although the best works almost always get translated, because
there exists a market for them.
The Adventures of Pinocchio is best :)
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
Andersen's Fairy Tales
El Ingenioso Hidalgo Don Quijote de la Mancha
The Adventures of Asterix
The Adventures of Tintin
Harry Potter
Bhagavad Gita
The Diary of a Young Girl
Winnie-the-Pooh
Pippi Longstocking
The Alchemist
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
Nineteen Eighty-Four
Isha Upanishad
> And not that I find it hard to implement:
>
> - I would use any programming language as the starting language;
>
> - Any description defined would be defined in chunks so that automated
> programming works better. For example names of variables would not
> be names, rathre pointers to ID of the variable which then has
> entries for each programming language; same for functions and other
> objects;
>
> - Then one would generate the language in the starting language;
>
> - If translated it would be generated in the other language.
>
> - I would demand more literate function naming;
>
> Translation would speed up computer level knowledge in many other countries.
>
>
> --
> Jean
>
> Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns:
> https://www.fsf.org/campaigns
>
> In support of Richard M. Stallman
> https://stallmansupport.org/
>
>
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2019-03-09 19:55 ` Paul Eggert
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2019-03-09 20:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-09 19:22 ` Paul Eggert
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