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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322467 Archived-At: > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2024 at 10:10 AM > From: "Dr=2E Arne Babenhauserheide" > To: "Drew Adams" > Cc: "Christopher Dimech" , "Jeremy Bryant" , "Eli Zaretskii" , "emacs-devel@gnu=2Eorg" , "rms@gnu=2Eorg" > Subject: Re: [External] : Emacs website, Lisp, and other > > Drew Adams writes: > > language / hyperbole, IMO that description is not > > only too subdued >=20 > I=E2=80=99ll add that being subdued about strength can actually be harmf= ul=2E >=20 > While false marketing is a problem, not doing marketing and not pointing > out the strengths of your project causes people to use systems that are > less suited to their requirements than your project=2E For Emacs development, the use of Elisp is quite clear=2E Customizations are done in Elisp=2E Perhaps add some examples that other editors cannot = do=2E For instance, with the work of Protesilaos Stavrou, we have accessible themes=2E Astonishing work=2E =20 > Because other people will use marketing=2E And marketing works=2E >=20 > But marketing can be honest=2E Its goal is then to ensure that the peopl= e > to whom your project would be useful learn about the project=2E=C2=B9 >=20 > =E2=87=92 Good marketing starts with the existing strengths of a project= and > finds people to whom these strengths are useful=2E >=20 > This also means to use language that conveys enthusiasm=2E >=20 > If you are silent about actual strength of your project, many people to > whom choosing your project would be the best decision will not find your > project when they are in a situation where they can choose it=2E >=20 > So the Emacs website and documentation should not sell elisp short=2E To sell it is by application, not words=2E The biggest difficulty is gett= ing others to use the editor, and to make it easier for them to use elisp to make emacs work better for them=2E It does take some months to get produc= tive with it though=2E =20 =20 > Best wishes, > Arne >=20 > =C2=B9 https://www=2Edraketo=2Ede/anderes/honest-marketing#what-is-good-= marketing > --=20 > Unpolitisch sein > hei=C3=9Ft politisch sein, > ohne es zu merken=2E > draketo=2Ede >