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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261165 Archived-At: > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 at 6:48 AM > From: "Richard Stallman" > To: "James Lu" > Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, dimech@gmx.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Let's make Emacs mainstream (through org-mode) > > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > And sometimes they would have to write a tutorial that should exist. > > > For $10, that's 10 minutes of the engineers' time. > > If every support request is that easy, then it would work, But what if > a user who pays $15 per month asks you to fix a problem that takes you > a whole week of work? Only if a group approaches a developer would the scheme work. > If you can clearly define what sorts of support you offer, with clear > limits, then this might work. > > I suggest we defer the rest of this discussion until such time > as someone wants to consider doing it. Then perse could talk > with those of us who are interested, perhaps on another list. > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) > Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) > > > >