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they are not the default colors= =2E > >>=20 > >> I took them from calling > >>=20 > >> M-x customize-face mode-line > > > > So you your self asked Emacs to use these colors? then I think Emacs > > shouldn't second-guess you=2E >=20 > I think that the OP is saying that he looked up the colors through M-x > customize-face, not that he *setted* them=2E >=20 > I asked him to make some experiments to determine the source of those > colors, but his last message in our exchange contained only quoted text > from previous messages=2E I replied with the following -q --no-x-resources Problem goes away -q --no-site-file Problem exists -q --no-site-lisp Problem exists It was then determined that X Resource was doing that=2E =20 > > There could be a place to warn the user that these colors mean low > > contrast, when the user is about to save the changes=2E Would that be > > good enough? >=20 > In general, that feature could avoid the scenario where by accident or > ignorance the user sets a background and foreground so similar to each > other that the customize-face interface itself becomes unreadable=2E It isn't practical to set resources that are used by every application=2E You'll need to add or override some settings for particular applications= =2E=20 =20 > Instead of asking before applying the changes, is could be better to ask > after the changes are visible, using a temporary "safe" color > combination on the minibuffer: "your changes look like this, do you want > to keep them?"=2E >=20 >=20 >