From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 13:08:50 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20201127160216.GA27998@tuxteam.de> <20201127175346.GB27998@tuxteam.de> <87zh324fa9.fsf@web.de> <837dq5ordu.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11994"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 28 13:11:15 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kiz4N-00031U-9J for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 13:11:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52634 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiz4M-0007J4-2Z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 07:11:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48890) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiz26-0007Iu-MM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 07:08:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:36337) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiz24-0001tA-Gc; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 07:08:54 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1606565330; bh=dg9/nW0G5oRjH1dFfgKD998NAg4G0Xg7i2GbyHOuBPM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=W+JFT/12NU2EK49tXEJcmGJNJ7WlSpsTIDmKuBKfiwfapzL00aKiiieHGCmH9kmlC jpTqIIlblWFn6G1f2ui1MRw2ajYeEWYUKahNRacALqbxO7GH0/X6bWOquvBrCOppD8 1lHLwjUZYrQoJZ+6g8o8VozFqep97n6AZLK593Do= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs12.server.lan [172.19.170.180]) (via HTTP); Sat, 28 Nov 2020 13:08:50 +0100 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <837dq5ordu.fsf@gnu.org> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:qLsftD6ewtYSfTLpKQKoHWBLB94K4leUbaxBwx43HrBrXqF3C67LhXKWfjtQcKm7Xc40k ueCRK/90mb+W05A9Ubo4owADQHgL5en7D61nmYma9Qf2ozCLnbBwbp9qiRcmqcYP3agFIvYQdE1m +wsFFF++nc0nv82CL+UxMES6E9MtK2CA9XCIFGi5UM2cFweNobS5PtTMd2JIUPaIMNzNHrIHnpEJ KGPLD0dplpVidx4K5yh1pc3DTz/H1R/rcKxVG+dLmq0odDVfDTo+VkiHhrs+tAa0JoHoVgrs80Qs fY= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:YbK0HmChTcc=:3B40aBbXZNCK5D5+xwd5YO h1BUXHJjFsKPB1BUec0oJRs07N4g+g6xjHK2bYE8XH7EKk8exkJVFCdZaROrezwAPUS1+NxoB RBZHZQAXpU7gLU+oBpc7NFIPiIEvOh/SUtlJhD2mc85PJ19ZkYjHPEaJ7mlu/43ucjJjbx1Tv eiMS788BNopNItMsrSeYW7dzT61SKwa/kUHKwlDggJTE1SKWMTTrWBR+wBJHSZm5rbyVyOtf6 virTAG/JkmZuM3mIY1o6VE+JiaEoY+TzhT6q8+0JwZVbBhN6/va/kU67CW03G18oeo9nCMOND dnuvSTqMklZkjapiJ6EzgdI+i7RVdAYChY1x60Bct/PiTnvlsnqLbOVOykEShZEom3YbkBdDa ZoEpkgr0EIvVOOmMVHqYUtgG2FMRQADZU2yV+08nxLZcDGyhwEryIHKIUpITMa61o3RBAMr4j 4GOco6Y7iUUyoPMElalNTZwxWO7/oTK1nvpACBHpa2vrWjFmytrALhP4Yz7QbEoR++BQuTrlp ryTsG6mRPXgKE8IblCElD7ULKgjVBPc1Jv4FBKWTLkhKl8ImHYF6rKFHjursxUUrHV/tZJ+VR PEEHsjsug6ZeU= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.20; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125725 Archived-At: Always listening to positive applause is not a good strategy. Had superiors like that. Terrible. > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 8:46 AM > From: "Eli Zaretskii" > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments > > > From: Michael Heerdegen > > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 23:15:58 +0100 > > > > And if you ask for help everybody is suddenly quiet. I would be pisse= d > > off. I don't know where Eli's motivation comes from. > > My motivation comes from the urge to keep improving the Emacs > documentation. I cannot possibly do that with "criticism" that just > says our documentation sucks and should be rewritten, because that's > not useful: I don't know how to convert that to any useful list of > things to fix. > > And, of course, saying that the manuals should be rewritten is a clear > sign that the person probably doesn't know how to use the Info mode > efficiently, and probably didn't read too much of said documentation. > Which further diminishes the useful payload of such claims. > >