From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, tsdh@gnu.org, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Making a function than can only be used interactively
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2022 23:07:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-df671afe-f541-4864-b868-e48795a15df7-1656968847982@3c-app-mailcom-bs07> (raw)
> Jul 4, 2022, 20:45 by monnier@iro.umontreal.ca:
>>>>> More seriously, what are you trying to gain by "mak[ing] a function
>>>>> interactive only"?
>>> For instance, writing an interactive wrapper function calling a non-interactive
>>> mother function.
> A common enough case, which you can do just fine without having to
> prevent non-interactive calls to the interactive wrapper.
>>> Technically, you can use `completing-read` and `read-from-minibuffer` if you'd also
>>> like to set values interactively, while calling the function non-interactively.
> You mean you can turn
> (defun foo (a b c)
> (interactive ...)
> ...)
> into
> (defun foo ()
> (interactive)
> (let ((a ...)
> (b ...)
> (c ...))
> ...))
Yes, that is what I had in mind.
> Indeed. It's usually discouraged because it's incompatible with
> non-interactive uses of the function, but in the case under discussion
> you don't care about that because you already have another function to
> use for non-interactive calls.
It is indeed incompatible with non-interactive use. A thing that can be done
is fire the warning even when Lisp Code in not transformed into byte-code.
Although byte compilation in recommended, I wonder how often people actually
byte-compile every file. Byte compiling will often tell you errors or warning
in your elisp code that you normally wouldn't know, but I think that running
an interactive-only function non-interactively is serious enough to insert the
warning in the warnings buffer anyway.
>>> I am not sure if in practice that is ever desired.
> It's done occasionally, typically in cases where it's difficult to
> cleanly separate the part of the code that prompts the user from the
> part that actually performs the desired operation.
> Stefan
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2022-07-04 21:07 Christopher Dimech [this message]
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