From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48580: Outline Mode using Phylogenetic Tree Nomenclature Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 13:47:06 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83fsyfkx3u.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14373"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 48580@debbugs.gnu.org To: pietru@caramail.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 22 13:48:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lkQ70-0003Yh-6G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 22 May 2021 13:48:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32798 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lkQ6z-0003oL-9T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sat, 22 May 2021 13:47:06 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:3UHCwN9y+0iGwgdYx/1wgRPG0ViVEl8XzkNzxh2eIn6xUbC0mpc/B2cnlvRgdvjvL1pWg t07TZuBwvPUES715UfFnyvetQSoQbudQ/nVANiEGoKRZn8wHPz5OKf+YKJk2lJ/gzbcV8fnw6lPs O513usi4ACCc0ZQQ8CTFKlIwga/6uPKFjDonrW3bfG2/OjAuRN6JBqefx6oRV3BdGZfbMkyDtCN3 Rhp7K1OOvlcoaA9E4Ft8GqpdylA2jpQuDJ91kPSLQ/ccgwyGxaKIxSCnR80g+gpZBE6lPKIxuiVm 50= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:FDR1jrwpqUk=:uGQOMFUbllQA3Sp9PhWNPh nltptb6rTU6Iro+z3nu/gPhxWAcnpN1kTHeqlBeOHFrQAPOdw5pXnXLcg+xVUCaah8b/WTXdI YdI1IGMugeX21+Gsz8cLpmyEwYf+rkPy2QOJrV5AZS8xcDbglASev0G33DYSy1DojBcoVukWh bO1Tl7JefTJcbhFUEBO68wJkJZ3z/4gt/IqMSZf5JyJZ0jYWu/GiJjjMSlJF+o2obMz/pqxVx dT748g8fie/pK2b0f13gD0xEC76Mjm0S1NKnWo/Zm1bRuemxne3reDijBXCwH54+sg5zh7ujf bDxmsPcowC4jIBq0WZn7glVxDWqpGSE9ohpXn3IY8x9hjWHtaDaqThl06aOf8W9vBCYBxEKBg 4YDSxc00inrmfutPonXfUwtkae6v4/GpGAXpfU1GoRpdGGQh03OQjBQZ7dP+uxkf7NgPbBOFl jFwBpnkhlM/0jMseAAgztbNmZi8DxHSXsKzWSSZwgu3jbRHoo3VsMZQB5hZMtYFHEWzfmIm/v 3a//hoP6nsCSnjXzp2NpMccPDsH2Gm1wHY18fdm0Ej+9eSYgQZFENOQq4ct2XWtZiQcfTnNb+ qJbXnzaIiEoP4DXEFwc8eiAPHIP0LngI36PsMjd3VUMWB+KVrVKqPh7KObxBsy1RQ05Dro5jy DIOBMjXgWzlLdnPMlJ7E2BqaM2sxRzm0snGwGwYUoXvvOL92Yc6eTzLJ5lDLN43qi8TTN7+T7 FhuM/86BopBnTfar+MwDlUeupVHJlcUn4DTIuIJVx52icQkVvZtyS0ouih2nJCBiYYRZrujv X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:207032 Archived-At: > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:53 PM > From: pietru@caramail.com > To: "Eli Zaretskii" > Cc: 48580@debbugs.gnu.org > Subject: bug#48580: Outline Mode using Phylogenetic Tree Nomenclature > > > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 8:10 PM > > From: "Eli Zaretskii" > > To: pietru@caramail.com > > Cc: 48580@debbugs.gnu.org > > Subject: bug#48580: Outline Mode using Phylogenetic Tree Nomenclature > > > > > From: pietru@caramail.com > > > Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 09:56:15 +0200 > > > Sensitivity: Normal > > > > > > I advise and lay out a system based on a formal Phylogenetic Tree th= at implement > > > Show-Hide Options. > > > > > > Show All (currently: Show All [unchanged]) > > > Show Offsprings (currently: Show Children) > > > Show Descendants (currently: Show Branches) > > > Show Sub-Tree (currently: Show Subtree [unchanged]) > > > Show Common Level (currently: Hide Sublevels) > > > > > > Hide Sub-Branches (currently: Hide Leaves - meaning Hide Body after = heading) > > > Hide Branches (currently: Hide Body, leaves all headings visible) > > > Hide Current Branch (currently: Hide Entry - hide body of this headi= ng) > > > Hide Sub-Tree (currently: Hide Subtree [unchanged]) > > > Hide Other (currently: Hide Other [unchanged]) > > > > FWIW, if I were presented with the menu labels as you suggest, I'd be > > mightily confused by the unfamiliar terminology. "Branches", > > "Levels", "Children", and "Tree" are familiar terms when dealing with > > tree structures, whereas "Offsprings", "Descendants" and > > "Sub-branches" aren't. > > The problem is not much about Levels, Children, and Tree. > > Things got problematic when people required additional words for showing= and hiding > structures that go beyond Children, Levels and Tree. My focus is mostly= about "Entry" > and Leaves. > > Leaves are always end-nodes, not related to the body ("hide leaves" mean= s "hide bodies" > in outline.el [in addition to not being related to end-nodes either]). = In outline, leaves > are expected to be the bodies of headlines. And even in standard tree n= omenclature, branches > are not nodes (but "show branches means" "show nodes" in outline.el). The arguments you brought up are fundamentally correct. Instead of "branc= hes", outline.el could use "bodies". "leaves" and "entry" should also be changed. "Hide = Entry" is really "Hide Current Body". And "Hide Body" hides all bodies in buffer, but essentially means "Show Tr= ee" (show headlines only without displaying bodies).