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From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>,
	Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Subject: Leaving Freenode behind
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 23:09:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-dc222e60-587b-4b5f-8ade-7f5107bc278e-1624396181748@3c-app-mailcom-bs13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YNJMk+f1avFX7ExA@protected.localdomain>

> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 at 8:48 AM
> From: "Jean Louis" <bugs@gnu.support>
> To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> Cc: "Stefan Kangas" <stefan@marxist.se>, "Richard Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>, emacs-tangents@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Leaving Freenode behind
>
> * Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> [2021-06-22 09:40]:
> > It is unfortunate to think that the moment one markets something,
> > then it is corrupt.  There is nothing wrong with a business or an
> > industry.  Business means that something that someone needs, someone
> > decides to provide.  As long as it is a legitimate business and people
> > are paying their taxes.  Of course for a cost, because if it needs to be
> > sustained, there has to be a cost.
> >
> > Till people give up this attitude, free software will not spread
> > across.  Free software must go to every village if the urban people
> > pay for it.  That is my mission and I will take it there.
>
> What you don't see is that free software WAS always one or the other
> business. There is nothing wrong and was never wrong in selling free
> software. That is how I found it, I have paid 90 Deutschmarks in
> Buchhandlung under Bahnhof in Stuttgart for the "Red Hat Linux" book
> with the CDs attached. That was in 1999. All my contacts at the time
> were with the companies selling free software on CDs. It was never in
> my mind a question that such would be "free". What was good with it is
> that license was permissive and I could buy one time and use it many
> times.
>
> So many times I have purchased Free GNU/Linux variations of OS-es in
> magazines or with books. In fact I used Internet so little, it took me
> few years to figure out that I could just download software. Until
> then I have been installing it from paid CDs.

I remember that time well.  That's how it was.

> Many companies are profiting on free software. It was since the
> inception of GNU with kernel Linux that it was sold and sold over and
> over again.
>
> How do you mean: free software will not spread? It runs now the
> majority of Internet, people pay for VPS-es, it is just everywhere,
> well spread.

Because the non-profit obsession is basically a dislike of those who are
successful.

> --
> Jean
>
> Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns:
> https://www.fsf.org/campaigns
>
> In support of Richard M. Stallman
> https://stallmansupport.org/
>



  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-22 21:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-21 20:24 Leaving Freenode behind Stefan Kangas
2021-06-21 20:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-04  5:27   ` Amin Bandali
2021-06-21 23:38 ` Jean Louis
2021-06-22  0:06 ` Richard Stallman
2021-06-22  4:35   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-06-22  6:39     ` Christopher Dimech
2021-06-22 20:48       ` Jean Louis
2021-06-22 21:09         ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2021-06-23  5:28           ` Jean Louis
2021-06-23 20:13             ` Christopher Dimech
2021-06-23 21:03               ` Jean Louis
2021-06-23 23:26                 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-06-24  5:12                   ` Jean Louis
2021-06-22 20:43     ` Jean Louis
2021-06-24  0:53     ` Richard Stallman

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