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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309077 Archived-At: > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:52 AM > From: "Eli Zaretskii" > To: "Ulrich Mueller" > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu=2Eorg > Subject: Re: Is admin/unidata/copyright=2Ehtml a free software license? > > > From: Ulrich Mueller > > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu=2Eorg > > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 14:48:51 +0200 > >=20 > > >>>>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >=20 > > > This was indeed discussed, and the conclusion was that it's okay for > > > us to distribute these files, and to distribute data based on those > > > files as part of Emacs=2E > >=20 > > Could you point me to the previous discussion please? >=20 > No, it was not on a public forum=2E >=20 > > I don't disagree that these files can be distributed (at least > > currently)=2E However, merely being distributable is a much lower stan= dard > > than being free=2E >=20 > As you yourself say, correctly, these files contain data, not code, > and the data is of the kind that hardly ever justifies copyright=2E >=20 > > >> I am also surprised that these lists in admin/unidata/ or, in gener= al, > > >> a character set can be copyrightable=2E (For example, everyone uses= ASCII > > >> without thinking about copyright of the underlying ANSI X3=2E4 stan= dard=2E > > >> The same applies to several much larger CJK character sets=2E) > >=20 > > > So therefore why are you raising this non-issue, from your POV? > >=20 > > But is it a non-issue? Why would Unicode claim copyright for these fil= es > > if they aren't copyrightable? >=20 > I have no idea=2E Feel free to ask them=2E =20 The Unicode Consortium=E2=80=99s data files and software are globally and = freely licensed=20 under the Unicode License (https://www=2Eunicode=2Eorg/license=2Etxt)=2E Only the Unicode Code Charts are made available under their own specific a= nd narrow terms and conditions=2E >> In the latter case, the problem isn't solved, because we still have: >> > | Unicode, Inc=2E shall have the right to modify this Agreement >> > | at any time by posting it to this website=2E It does not matter whether they have the right to modify the agreement=2E When you get the data files and software, you use the license that was given to you at the time=2E Thus no problems ensue=2E=20