From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 00:38:32 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87zh324fa9.fsf@web.de> <837dq5ordu.fsf@gnu.org> <871rgd6jzk.fsf@web.de> <87r1oclvkp.fsf@web.de> <87blffzq7f.fsf@web.de> <87wny2r1a1.fsf@web.de> <87k0u2qw0z.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26975"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 01 00:40:47 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kjsmk-0006vC-Os for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 00:40:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46502 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjsmj-00041v-JH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 18:40:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54024) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjskg-00041i-DX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 18:38:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:54425) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjske-0007lM-7a for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 18:38:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1606779512; bh=mGQRX3U8ubYAiw2lVMuBoXikaZA1afzDVasWKelG95c=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=JJqXOOmtym40ZSMpKHl3NQTzHVPzDjwjraPnVP2ciLJbajR3u4TwUkk7pRGKZAtKy hqoS9lW6nnfDeNouhi29zrwXQDpExK3gKtfBvXYgL5xkWA+UuQlEl1z3FeHxc6Aeq8 dqo2CQpar175J7nWlSsXRRsLHu2ItWj58V5snOss= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs05.server.lan [172.19.170.173]) (via HTTP); Tue, 1 Dec 2020 00:38:32 +0100 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <87k0u2qw0z.fsf@web.de> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:nsxrImaiIBPoC/PezxemDN21x1sAZlIg5Ti2fJ+lSSA4MToLW43O/AfUIhYUwRYTcyp3R krqpcDyRkZGfkdyg7MEx7WveLGmS0UTwcRj0M79QTm6l4Dx2GsMmJDOTJrtbdDBUEYPeUU9SUnlS Xtp9y2iFqZNGJ4qsGKEDbJkMJoMtcWh7JQ/yr/IBbppBmyWt4EE9TWOwJRjPx0y3SXkJkiyNgh9E 2lugYnJbYyQtcXDiGNPDVtXIMCv6A/9O+YNQyULmdcYFrqShQS8C9foY4ZhtguVZLHBuujZ89Nod 0k= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:oZM2nzHzDLA=:a7m4J56A3/0f5OuVvYt0Vn yWrFBpE8xATgMjUfCmIzK3qDUIh1o+UjoEY+tt0l0Nb59Y27zBtBdieVcG4csgFlgnOdnQGXp 9Tp2ARde9Em4W+oJRs8hVTQ7hf/zd12Fae4+L/TFOlCJj215/s2B0Yxy0vMtjeRn3gUCcVG1/ /PiWJ8oGE6w4AslyGYr/irJ50KXossFoVpS1JB8zK5i3waOaIHSEAOPn6Zk/9EhHATE565SwS xrhC8tSi0YnC6qSoZXCKTf/efZKNyk7azeI0Dae+7mN0ZvL/s+a7eONmRLgKV1pMF1BQ18ItD w54jFb7hAsrSoSKOrrH9cEdkHgfpBtUGSp/y9fBEmKguaxpAqObTJvKbz+/0gO/ThWD2Kmz+8 u5Tb0LecomYLVZNmI/59Yzezd78mkw9/xVA1fSRzM9ASc56mhMNY0DqEI/fc2Kukf4kRFV6Ir +UOCzV1KX5Pdg6RZVPICefkdvnXsGGXqZX7aj9YUAtNhkSBV9UxxKAQEKZYA47hxq1S6S9yHW IuTtI57qaRwIv7C5NBaptkJVWajzrlPLLiYZeThwkIvcTeYxyfxspwRtQX7w7mh5CJtdSJtPv 0mJXhWzA95K6s= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.22; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125782 Archived-At: > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2020 at 12:12 AM > From: "Michael Heerdegen" > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments > > Christopher Dimech writes: > > > I mean, rather than with foo, bar, a, g, temp, body. > > I see. This example demonstrates subtle parts of the semantics instead > of mentioning a typical use case. > > Could be as simple as: "for example, to set the binding of `fill-column' > only for the current buffer, do it like (setq-local fill-column 70)" as > an preliminary example. > > I see there is a certain gap between the user manual, which doesn't > cover this concept, and the Elisp manual, which is very detailed if a > user doesn't want to write a package but just needs some basics to be > able to make his config a bit more mode aware. Spot on. For those who get excited and take the challenge to try customis= ing emacs, but are not skillful enough to be emacs package developers. It does not even have to be in the reference manual. It could be an intermed= iate guide between introduction and full reference. > But I guess it is a task not as simply as it seems: we need to know what > the typical use case for user's customizations is, when a typical use > case exists at all. And we still need the academicly abstract examples > to teach people the other important aspects. Certainly not easy. Yes, one needs to know typical use cases that users would like to customise themselves. I mean, not "customise themselves", but ... customise emacs themselves :) > > Regards, > > Michael. > > >