Symbol's function definition is void: facemenu-set-bold

Symbol's function definition is void: facemenu-set-bold

[Christopher Dimech]

In Emacs 28.0.50 I am getting

Symbol's function definition is void: facemenu-set-bold

Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Christopher Dimech]

In Emacs 28.0.50 I am getting

Symbol's function definition is void: facemenu-set-bold

I am not getting this problem with Emacs 27.1

Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
> Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 21:02:26 +0200
> Cc: Help Gnu Emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> 
> 
> In Emacs 28.0.50 I am getting
> 
> Symbol's function definition is void: facemenu-set-bold

When was your Emacs built?  I guess it's somewhat old, because this
was recently fixed.

If it is a recent build, describe how you get that error.

Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Christopher Dimech]

> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 7:18 AM
> From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold
>
> > From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
> > Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 21:02:26 +0200
> > Cc: Help Gnu Emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> >
> >
> > In Emacs 28.0.50 I am getting
> >
> > Symbol's function definition is void: facemenu-set-bold
>
> When was your Emacs built?  I guess it's somewhat old, because this
> was recently fixed.
>
> If it is a recent build, describe how you get that error.

Have installed it today after doing

git clone -b master git://git.sv.gnu.org/emacs.git

Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Christopher Dimech]

Have commented out (facemenu-set-bold) but still get problems.

This time it is

File is missing: Cannot open load file, No such file or directory, popup


> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 7:38 AM
> From: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> To: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold
>
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 7:18 AM
> > From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
> > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> > Subject: Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold
> >
> > > From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
> > > Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 21:02:26 +0200
> > > Cc: Help Gnu Emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> > >
> > >
> > > In Emacs 28.0.50 I am getting
> > >
> > > Symbol's function definition is void: facemenu-set-bold
> >
> > When was your Emacs built?  I guess it's somewhat old, because this
> > was recently fixed.
> >
> > If it is a recent build, describe how you get that error.
>
> Have installed it today after doing
>
> git clone -b master git://git.sv.gnu.org/emacs.git
>
>
>
>

Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Christopher Dimech]

What do I have to do in getting the version whore the problem with facemenu-set-bold
is fixed?

Regards
Christopher

> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 10:29 AM
> From: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> Cc: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold
>
> Have commented out (facemenu-set-bold) but still get problems.
>
> This time it is
>
> File is missing: Cannot open load file, No such file or directory, popup
>
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 7:38 AM
> > From: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> > To: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
> > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> > Subject: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold
> >
> >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 7:18 AM
> > > From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
> > > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> > > Subject: Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold
> > >
> > > > From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
> > > > Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 21:02:26 +0200
> > > > Cc: Help Gnu Emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In Emacs 28.0.50 I am getting
> > > >
> > > > Symbol's function definition is void: facemenu-set-bold
> > >
> > > When was your Emacs built?  I guess it's somewhat old, because this
> > > was recently fixed.
> > >
> > > If it is a recent build, describe how you get that error.
> >
> > Have installed it today after doing
> >
> > git clone -b master git://git.sv.gnu.org/emacs.git
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Jean Louis]

* Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> [2021-05-25 11:09]:
> 
> What do I have to do in getting the version whore the problem with facemenu-set-bold
> is fixed?

When I turn off font-lock-mode and invoke facemenu-set-bold, it just
works

I don't think that was unfixed, maybe you need to turn off
font-lock-mode?

-- 
Jean

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Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Christopher Dimech]

I simply put "(facemenu-set-bold)" in my init file

> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 8:36 PM
> From: "Jean Louis" <bugs@gnu.support>
> To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold
>
> * Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> [2021-05-25 11:09]:
> >
> > What do I have to do in getting the version whore the problem with facemenu-set-bold
> > is fixed?
>
> When I turn off font-lock-mode and invoke facemenu-set-bold, it just
> works
>
> I don't think that was unfixed, maybe you need to turn off
> font-lock-mode?
>
> --
> Jean
>
> Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns:
> https://www.fsf.org/campaigns
>
> Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman
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Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Jean Louis]

* Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> [2021-05-25 12:02]:
> 
> I simply put "(facemenu-set-bold)" in my init file

Oh, no...      ಠ_ಠ

Not like that... 

Well let me say that most probably the function (facemenu-set-bold) in
your init file worked correctly, you just have not seen it. This may
be because it was executed in a buffer where you did not participate.

So first is to ask Emacs what it means by using:
       
             {C-h f facemenu-set-bold RET}

Where it will say:

facemenu-set-bold is an interactive compiled Lisp function.

It is bound to <menu-bar> <edit> <Text Properties> <fc> b.

(facemenu-set-bold)

Select face ‘bold’ for subsequent insertion.
If the mark is active and there is no prefix argument,
apply face ‘bold’ to the region instead.
This command was defined by ‘facemenu-add-new-face’.

So if it is "interactive" it means it is not supposed to be invoked
from init.el file but if you insist, you are free to do so. 

It is meant for "subsequent insertion".

How about you explain what you really wish to achieve? Do you want all
fonts to be bold? In that case why not use 
           
                   {M-x customize-face RET default RET}

and then set it bolder or how you wish it to be.



-- 
Jean

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Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Christopher Dimech]

I like to use bold fonts.  But want to set things up in my init file. 

> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 9:34 PM
> From: "Jean Louis" <bugs@gnu.support>
> To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold
>
> * Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> [2021-05-25 12:02]:
> > 
> > I simply put "(facemenu-set-bold)" in my init file
> 
> Oh, no...      ಠ_ಠ
> 
> Not like that... 
> 
> Well let me say that most probably the function (facemenu-set-bold) in
> your init file worked correctly, you just have not seen it. This may
> be because it was executed in a buffer where you did not participate.
> 
> So first is to ask Emacs what it means by using:
>        
>              {C-h f facemenu-set-bold RET}
> 
> Where it will say:
> 
> facemenu-set-bold is an interactive compiled Lisp function.
> 
> It is bound to <menu-bar> <edit> <Text Properties> <fc> b.
> 
> (facemenu-set-bold)
> 
> Select face ‘bold’ for subsequent insertion.
> If the mark is active and there is no prefix argument,
> apply face ‘bold’ to the region instead.
> This command was defined by ‘facemenu-add-new-face’.
> 
> So if it is "interactive" it means it is not supposed to be invoked
> from init.el file but if you insist, you are free to do so. 
> 
> It is meant for "subsequent insertion".
> 
> How about you explain what you really wish to achieve? Do you want all
> fonts to be bold? In that case why not use 
>            
>                    {M-x customize-face RET default RET}
> 
> and then set it bolder or how you wish it to be.
>
> -- 
> Jean
> 
> Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns:
> https://www.fsf.org/campaigns
> 
> Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman
> https://stallmansupport.org/
>

Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 10:06:14 +0200
> 
> 
> What do I have to do in getting the version whore the problem with facemenu-set-bold
> is fixed?

It's not the Emacs version, it's your code: it assumes facemenu is
preloaded, and that changed lately.  So you need to (require 'facemenu).

Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Christopher Dimech]

> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 12:32 AM
> From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold
>
> > From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> > Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 10:06:14 +0200
> >
> >
> > What do I have to do in getting the version whore the problem with facemenu-set-bold
> > is fixed?
>
> It's not the Emacs version, it's your code: it assumes facemenu is
> preloaded, and that changed lately.  So you need to (require 'facemenu).

Has been suggested to me that I use

(set-face-attribute 'default nil :weight 'ultra-bold)

What do you think Eli?

Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Yuri Khan]

On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 20:20, Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> wrote:

> > > What do I have to do in getting the version whore the problem with facemenu-set-bold
> > > is fixed?
> >
> > It's not the Emacs version, it's your code: it assumes facemenu is
> > preloaded, and that changed lately.  So you need to (require 'facemenu).
>
> Has been suggested to me that I use
>
> (set-face-attribute 'default nil :weight 'ultra-bold)
>
> What do you think Eli?

You have not stated your goal and expectation in this thread, so your
question cannot be meaningfully answered.

In the other thread, you said your goal is to have everything
displayed in bold and your previous approach was to use
(facemenu-set-bold), so a better approach was suggested to you.

Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Christopher Dimech]

> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 1:28 AM
> From: "Yuri Khan" <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
> To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> Cc: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>, "help-gnu-emacs" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> Subject: Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold
>
> On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 20:20, Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> > > > What do I have to do in getting the version whore the problem with facemenu-set-bold
> > > > is fixed?
> > >
> > > It's not the Emacs version, it's your code: it assumes facemenu is
> > > preloaded, and that changed lately.  So you need to (require 'facemenu).
> >
> > Has been suggested to me that I use
> >
> > (set-face-attribute 'default nil :weight 'ultra-bold)
> >
> > What do you think Eli?
>
> You have not stated your goal and expectation in this thread, so your
> question cannot be meaningfully answered.
>
> In the other thread, you said your goal is to have everything
> displayed in bold and your previous approach was to use
> (facemenu-set-bold), so a better approach was suggested to you.

Originally I was using (facemenu-set-bold) but things have changed lately.
Thusly Eli instructed on calling (require 'facemenu).

The following was suggested to me, and I am using it.  Bet do not know if there is
consensus that the latter is a better approach.  Just checking out.

(set-face-attribute 'default nil :weight 'ultra-bold)

Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Yuri Khan]

On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 20:33, Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> wrote:

> > In the other thread, you said your goal is to have everything
> > displayed in bold and your previous approach was to use
> > (facemenu-set-bold), so a better approach was suggested to you.
>
> Originally I was using (facemenu-set-bold) but things have changed lately.

How did it even work for you?

    $ ls -l /tmp/test-bold/
     .   ..   .emacs

    $ cat /tmp/test-bold/.emacs
    (facemenu-set-bold)

    $ HOME=/tmp/test-bold emacs

Observed behavior: Emacs starts up with *GNU Emacs* buffer. None of
its contents is bold.

    $ HOME=/tmp/test-bold emacs newfile

Observed behavior: Emacs starts up with an empty buffer. Text typed in
this buffer is displayed in bold. However, if I switch to *scratch*,
its contents are not bold. If I ‘C-x C-f’ a file, its text is not
bold.

    $ HOME=/tmp/test-bold emacs .emacs

Observed behavior: Emacs starts up with a buffer containing the text
‘(facemenu-set-bold)’. It is not bold. Entering any new text does not
make it bold.


Bottom line: your former approach does not work except in a single and
rare case.

Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 15:20:33 +0200
> 
> Has been suggested to me that I use
> 
> (set-face-attribute 'default nil :weight 'ultra-bold)
> 
> What do you think Eli?

I'm not sure I understand well enough what you want to do.  I suggest
to try that; if it works, fine.

Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Christopher Dimech]

> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 1:43 AM
> From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold
>
> > From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
> > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> > Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 15:20:33 +0200
> >
> > Has been suggested to me that I use
> >
> > (set-face-attribute 'default nil :weight 'ultra-bold)
> >
> > What do you think Eli?
>
> I'm not sure I understand well enough what you want to do.  I suggest
> to try that; if it works, fine.

Had used facemenu-set-bold because I wanted all text to show in bold.

So it is either

(require 'facemenu)
(facemenu-set-bold)

or

(set-face-attribute 'default nil :weight 'ultra-bold)

Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

> Had used facemenu-set-bold because I wanted all text to show in bold.

Define "all text".


        Stefan

Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold

[Christopher Dimech]

Text of the files I read and modify in emacs.  But I would not mind for emacs to use
bold text in other places.


> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 2:42 AM
> From: "Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs 28.0.50 and facemenu-set-bold
>
> > Had used facemenu-set-bold because I wanted all text to show in bold.
>
> Define "all text".
>
>
>         Stefan
>
>
>