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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.97 X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmx.net header.s=badeba3b8450 header.b=SM5gBA4N; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-TUID: 3Z76nBKDodIn > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 4:51 AM > From: "Tim Cross" > To: daniela-spit@gmx.it > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Adding Org Files to org-agenda-files > > > daniela-spit@gmx.it writes: > > > #44935 > > > >> Initially, I put pretty much everything into the agenda file list. Th= is > >> worked fairly well until the size of these files began to get very > >> large. The biggest problem I had was my agendas were just getting too > >> large and complicated/distracting. > > > > I have constructed four different Capture Templates and four Org Agend= as > > and then I can fire up the ones I want as I am working. > > > >> I then moved to a workflow where the agenda files really only contain= ed > >> tasks and notes, references, pretty much everything else was put into > >> other org files not part of the agenda file list. I didn't like that > >> workflow. It complicated refiling and I lost the ability to keep all > >> related things together in a meaningful way. > > > > Have made capture and agenda by project, and then some functions > > that group some of them together. Not so sure how good it is going > > to until I have used for proper work. > > > > I went down a similar route initially. In the end, found it was much > better to define your capture templates to be generic i.e. not tied to a > specific project, but rather based on what you are capturing and then > use things like tags and properties (which you can have capture prompt > for) to capture project specific information. That looks adequate at first, but what if you want the history for a proje= ct and gaant charts on how time was spent. I mainly want it to figure out if jobs are worth stopping or changing. > So I have the following capture templates > > - TODO to capture basic tasks > > - phone which I use to capture phone call information and track time. > Actually, although it is called phone, I use it for any meeting type > thing. I have to track time for billing purposes and need to record > date and time of call for tracking purposes > > - Mail to track important emails. Adds a link to the original message (I > read email using mu4e). > > - Notes For capturing general note information > > - Bookmarks - I have a bookmarks.org file where I keep links to > 'interesting' things. Might be web sites, man pages, info pages etc. > > - protocol capture - for org protocol capture handler e.g. capturing > info from web pages in chrome. I got the same things actually. Nothing too drastic. > That is about it. My approach is to make capture as quick and easy as > possible. I usually just want to capture something and file it away to > get it out of my head and let me focus on what I was doing. Same here, except for the tracking bit. > All my capture templates write to a file called refile.org. When > capturing data, I don't need to think about where it goes, just capture > it an move on. At the start of each day, I open up the refile.org file > and 'refile' the entries, which is just a couple of key presses, into > the most appropriate org file. Many (not all) of the headings I refile > under will add appropriate tags via the org tag inheritance process, > which I use in various agenda views. This reminds me of what I have on > my plate and helps me plan my day. I was initially worried that having > to do this refiling every day would be a hassle. In fact, it has turned > out to be a bonus and rarely takes more than a couple of minutes, yet > not having to worry about where to file something right when I'm > capturing it is a great bonus as it makes it really fast. A meeting or > phone conversation which a client might result in me using capture > several times as I record tasks or notes. > > I have a few stored agenda searches and a couple of customised agenda > views, plus I frequently make use of the tags to do ad hoc searches. I > have also defined additional TODO states (TODO, NEXT, STARTED, HOLD, > DELEGATED, CANCELLED and DONE). Some are setup to prompt for an > additional note e.g. DELEGATED to let me specify who it is delegated to > and HOLD to specify why it is on hold). I have done that but not done any customised agenda views. Seems quite difficult for me. > The rest of my org customisation is mainly about data exports (tweaking > PDFs, HTML, Markdown exports, babel settings and specialised reports, > such as timesheets or invoices). I use org for all my documentation and > some work situations and clients want these documents to comply with > their corporate standards e.g. include logos, specific colours and fonts > etc). That's too advanced for me. > Tim > > -- > Tim Cross > >