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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261166 Archived-At: > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 at 6:49 AM > From: "Richard Stallman" > To: "Vasilij Schneidermann" > Cc: jamtlu@gmail.com, kfogel@red-bean.com, dimech@gmx.com, emacs-devel@g= nu.org > Subject: Re: Let's make Emacs mainstream (through org-mode) > > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > There are several fund raising platforms (Patreon being the most > > well-known, but not the only one) > > For moral reasons, we cannot refer people to donation sites that > require donors to run nonfree software. Patreon does that, and as far > as I know they all do. I would be very glad to find out about one > that doesn't. > > > Another thing to consider is funding in general. There is this > > widespread misbelief that one can support the development of Emacs a= nd > > Emacs packages by donating to the FSF. Giving people an official opt= ion > > to that effect might be worth looking into. > > The FSF does this sort of thing, and could do it for Emacs. > The question is, have we got useful ways to spend sums in the > hundreds or thousands -- not enough to pay for large jobs of > programming. My general experience in industry tells me that it is the maintainers that have to be proactive for funds, and then decide how to use them. A very good example about this has been Dr Luis Falcon, Founder and President of Gnu Solidario. > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) > Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) > > >