From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#58459: Getting a fresh emacs session with no customisation Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 21:20:29 +0200 Message-ID: References: <0geQIvut8pm1-9SAaI008CzSdp1E-IUa3kruCxKwrH66Gg92tJgKScNSDWJwuueXmV78tcULC_N_c9LG5MADKiD3_AjkXcNQTMQ6soTqIlc=@proton.me> <3gN0Jqr94UeUj3xJtDV3zGvZVbUyjtQFAloYxrdvwN_ZHa3tEUYyFv8h3VcYYSk_gxgMaaBW94kAkaAUCgbd9QKZMkkYJBty-7XOadbzHHQ=@proton.me> <87fsfsc9af.fsf@yahoo.com> <83o7ufafow.fsf@gnu.org> <83bkqfa65k.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7557"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, psainty@orcon.net.nz, uzibalqa@proton.me, 58459@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 13 21:28:44 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oj3sp-0001lk-SE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Thu, 13 Oct 2022 21:20:29 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <83bkqfa65k.fsf@gnu.org> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:alM4OMvouF8XNqw9tAAtGyCDWoA0wc/iYtGhJIqs1cRSDQMFhd/1MOQmi2Q2Qo6Qp308a 7PrLDlyARJZByZzQKoKy8E631oYuka8tMNdQejiFe2WAbwwWvCe9BS59Q8Heav4laU3PBuuLoMZv LR6d7StzseL2DDVXjwoqDdymdG2w1qZFoyzxHPiGuD8GyT6SmHAspej9glVodOhvG50NISzcfeLY F+Sh7K8lz8EZ5YYtOmEwVUke1OeglJa0A+3UkcZdI31/7uKA90+3HOP28bctZLU7sCy6Y3+q+5vw rE= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:qAqo7zzTDyQ=:mL6E5HlXqPudf6fciws+18 cfIZJST6+yYgt/m3mZr+2fO4R1SL0r/VpkadeaX5yqOIy271TlTt8cYF5Mcuj2YYcZaBrT222 /sVsH0VK2MqWlrFb674HHxRPk2KaHIKJvUHmXGw73slNLB76evRm3D1Jx6EsSCLwncxoadZQD XCa8SIqtMB4EbJhOVeFEIGmwAVqryM4Kcd5J65WTjW4aVYRmnl5X99IbOWzDPMqSVaMGAByWP TRtAtNSA5Rybv0MPuRB6W/t5/soAxQ3PVJMS61pty2SfYNUXKlpBaj2Qz8T6Zz2vRWM4kKWHj lpSCzfRzzVHsIK4rCt46jAURDr1tRIhkQnF5WRxRc+QsHIO0IJa1uwDJcsSs2lTuvY7qygA+s g8254+Er/lTPRNCl14yoLO06IWUPSdLTzLS+z9WvS6yAlbWPQ+10sgHVdtZOfWeS29sTtgeYh 9oa0lp+ZLU3cAMpna5O4DR9MUCT7hf1ra66f1Lvyqp3veqS5dFTp2Bw1UyEAZP2As1pJC1y7E GbWoyppyw0XdU13mLjTYlts41q7m7+RxtuUZG5aRD9OsTmcDIqlOUZMCg46R3hwd1nUOi85fC sl+iWaozSXhSUoOwH+slTR/OEocBvAT+WSWUTOm2WH3cz0QPu4CQ+QVrJV6J+9AouEMMHhxDT lAw9/y2dcS+zQcrA/04abv2qjrzqkbWWlq6RejHU56C8GqKQI6kjLUzPXXdU64nrzSUHOLN8Q CmW9oe6VSj6CymViyb/UqOcB9CbqaEPlyZnLt4DpY4KZLYav6O0bEc6uDlUlsoL+WplxuHIg X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:245348 Archived-At: > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 at 7:13 AM > From: "Eli Zaretskii" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: uzibalqa@proton.me, luangruo@yahoo.com, psainty@orcon.net.nz, 58459@= debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com > Subject: Re: bug#58459: Getting a fresh emacs session with no customisat= ion > > > From: Christopher Dimech > > Cc: uzibalqa , luangruo@yahoo.com, psainty@orcon.n= et.nz, > > 58459@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com > > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 18:36:43 +0200 > > > > > And X resources are as much user settings as what the user sets on t= he > > > init files. So Emacs cannot but obey them. It is user's > > > responsibility to set up his/her settings according to his/her > > > preferences. > > > > The user makes a good point. When a user want emacs to obey x-resourc= es, > > the user specify the x-resources in their init file. Rather than obe= y them > > when a user did not specifically ask for that to happen. > > That's not how X applications work, and that's not how Emacs has > worked since day one on X. > > So please stop arguing, this is not going to change. It is my prerogative to state my outlook. And that also is not going to change.