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envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, T_SPF_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:138045 Archived-At: > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 at 8:58 AM > From: "Arash Esbati" > To: "Drew Adams" > Cc: "Christopher Dimech" , "eliz@gnu.org" = , "monnier@iro.umontreal.ca" , "Help Gnu Emacs" = , "carlmarcos@tutanota.com" , "michael_heerdegen@web.de" > Subject: Re: completing-read depricated initial-input > > Drew Adams writes: > > >> Because extremely general tools give one many > >> ways to do things. > > > > And? Emacs and Elisp are all about giving us > > many ways to do things. They even give you lots > > of rope to hang yourself with. > > > >> It is just hard if you find out afterwards that > >> things went in the wrong direction and you try > >> to clean up. No other reason. > > > > Too general/abstract. Can you elaborate with > > some specifics? > > I don't have any specific example in my mind, I was also thinking about > what you said above about the rope and hang yourself. > > > No one's obliged to use the very general function > > `completing-read'. And no one's obliged to use > > it with a non-nil INITIAL-INPUT arg. > > Agreed. > > But in terms of coming to some sort of conclusion: This thread started > with the question: > > When do you plan to remove the `INITIAL-INPUT` argument from > `completing-read`? > > I think the answer is: This will not happen, so don't worry. The bigger problem is really about whether the functionality associated wi= th INITIAL-INPUT will end? > If so, is the docstring of `completing-read' inaccurate or misleading? > If so, should there be a bug report and/or a change suggestion? > > WDYT? > > Best, Arash >