From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: outline-minor-mode and org-mode capabilities for programming languages Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 08:08:09 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87zgx3zu6e.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8475"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: moasenwood@zoho.eu Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 10 08:08:39 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lfz5r-000256-7U for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 08:08:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37912 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lfz5q-0006EY-AX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 02:08:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54416) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lfz5S-0006EQ-Hc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 02:08:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:48525) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lfz5Q-0001ZF-F1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 02:08:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1620626890; bh=f56VDj3XNyZQ73f/J+X8j5ABPubIe5ytEHskaWbvmLE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=ORrcEu9xhoTD0KaAVNyYadtdaUxGLB5DIiGnVtptY8Lp7etvUqKy87gF7bIzD311k e8Cfgz+2tCdx7QvX/UV5ygrPGATmqLSUlGLCyTlhNAtTq9WdOmgKOUwNZf4+wkemyL +RrOXSop3Zb7gjwSNlSQyyu4ICWXzwaswX+dKEqY= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs04.server.lan [172.19.170.170]) (via HTTP); Mon, 10 May 2021 08:08:09 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <87zgx3zu6e.fsf@zoho.eu> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:liHYjyscUfaLWVgkj+o+hJHi/WtrfnZbY2ZwbdC9KnmYrOIS923r2jC8s9XSoVKpadepd qmIVqXgkyxv23pwcvbqEwV/vHkydl3zcP4oglLVzVTvXgfB3DRuBs1O/hpw9UGJKBSWrA4ORmWlr BcvuB+Lx070w+x5YRmE82Hq48+om2OzbcKfqdwxol3CBvErRSn6SqsqC1JB7ioGznpZqqOXUixZp aZKJjo1FX0RfEWAEZf7Xdo2VUAt87nc8Qc8dJXxLaS4jkzJ13djsbrvyuwzQzbR7Lw/YCxPyh36P Js= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:s9KxDER/+9M=:2LsvIZTsJH+Nn2VarrLgW8 z1ofgE3ACRqDn88zsIhNUuh6BOlmOvbqFue74CGQWtzbQxLmdv5buasQD8SPjoXz48y5OjmNn QZwtgACQY2mF3I/TUAyB+mJneOWu46vBti6eWqiQ3Aw+3ON/sgBV3X/1/ff79Y6f0fKoES6oy 7R3ltEngRB++u456Y+4TRMbrHARFQk9bYXpxLh8MmrGtxwAnmpCCkTotRIOf2BGYH+Yq5Vg/M IeV1aaEp/p28qevmwPoWEplKyTyI5SAKrynKvxv0wmwdzvuY5M+ewly/N6h43DaoA+Zx0tj5C z6EbWPWUlberfUAM5kSBxP5nQg5asZalI99YTxvO4zkVmXfidjR+B8m5X0Ta494eQFbuEMXwK 6S0GqPs5vw28EdDLlo4O/13k+2qTAzd53NqOwmBXFyvYn2++prgqN7cRMyBvnepxnmGr2m1Km DGzL7LFZESp4KXlEQpV9COuMecoI8uhAU1KBBUJMYmapFgXLHvw/iy6MKIjwNVL5yxXBS+Mh0 lW1oe6TVHo0ZpTPP5t4E/8aTwU7Mf0jcoU1KAn3ujC+aIRT3ct+PxPZD/iMa2jDhexeLiVJSC 7Yf5uh90s8mY8Re6RBVrvublwEr2E1qlGkQVPBNeAZrd08HgHTDybKkZuKt0tBNxaBoDSix99 M1RNo6ygkjQQfPJz/CaPOTzAlrUULkptkm6Mkb+isnc5wYOH1uR95sAvkQrPSq8yUmb+eeUSf Op2J2fn/x7WDFgTI8U+n+CeN1+wsfUwnSRwM0ST+EcaZAvKZjizt2xaY8Gcj0xY8Vyz+1v17 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.18; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:129647 Archived-At: > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 at 5:35 AM > From: "Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor" > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: outline-minor-mode and org-mode capabilities for programmin= g languages > > Jean Louis wrote: > > > I don't think it should be updated, it is enough for users > > to customize their key bindings. The TAB that you are very > > much used to has its quite different meaning in different > > mode like emacs-lisp-mode and it would really disturt to > > change key bindings all the time when I switch to > > outline-minor-mode and back. > > Maybe so (I don't know the modes you refer to) but in general > is it very common to switch keys based on mode, most often the > modes are major modes but it can and is done for minor modes > as well, here is one example That has been my drift, to do things by language, for elisp we can refrain= from if need be. Currently there are a number of convoluted functionalities for outline-mod= e. But we should remember that all have their origin primarily driven by the deve= lopment of org-mode. > https://dataswamp.org/~incal/emacs-init/caps-back.el > > > I can think that you barely use TAB in Emacs Lisp, but I use > > it very frequently to indent the lines, including to indent > > lines when region is active, and often I may use it on the > > whole marked buffer. > > You barely use it, but you use it all the time ... and so do > I :) > > -- > underground experts united > https://dataswamp.org/~incal > > >