From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>,
incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: as for Calc and the math library
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 20:17:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-b97105a8-ab87-4fe9-be5c-53b32b37d48b-1723400268526@3c-app-mailcom-bs11> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86bk1zhrf5.fsf@gnu.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2024 at 5:59 AM
> From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
> To: "Ihor Radchenko" <yantar92@posteo.net>
> Cc: incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: as for Calc and the math library
>
> > From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
> > Cc: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 16:45:54 +0000
> >
> > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> >
> > > If Emacs is to have a math library, the library must use high-quality
> > > mathematical and numerical algorithms that are well-known and
> > > described in many textbooks on this subject matter...
> >
> > I agree with this point, but I suspect that writing such a library from
> > scratch might be a bit difficult.
>
> It depends on the scope and the person who'd like to work on that.
>
> > May I suggest an alternative: abstract out GNU Calc math routines to be
> > available from Elisp without having to read Calc sources.
> > Such a task would require:
> > 1. Documenting some Calc data structures
> > 2. Possibly refactoring some Calc functions to use simpler API.
> >
> > It would be a much easier task and can improve the existing
> > functionality.
>
> I don't think I understand well enough what will this entail in
> practice. Can you show an example of doing this for a couple of
> functions?
>
> In any case, this job, as any other job in Emacs, needs its
> volunteer(s). Until we have such volunteers, it's all academic.
For good mathematical libraries, you require a practicing applied
mathematician. A programmer is not enough.
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-10 22:48 as for Calc and the math library Emanuel Berg
2024-08-11 4:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-11 16:45 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-11 16:55 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-11 17:05 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-11 17:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-11 18:17 ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2024-08-11 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-11 19:53 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-11 18:27 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-11 18:38 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-12 6:28 ` New Emacs features via Google Summer of Code (or other similar stipend schemes) (was: as for Calc and the math library) Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-12 11:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 12:10 ` New Emacs features via Google Summer of Code (or other similar stipend schemes) Joel Reicher
2024-08-12 18:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-12 22:28 ` Pedro
2024-08-14 10:07 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-15 11:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-12 19:17 ` New Emacs features via Google Summer of Code (or other similar stipend schemes) (was: as for Calc and the math library) Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-13 8:12 ` New Emacs features via Google Summer of Code (or other similar stipend schemes) Andrea Corallo
2024-08-18 11:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-18 12:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 12:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-18 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 13:56 ` RTF import/export emacs (was: New Emacs features via Google Summer of Code (or other similar stipend schemes)) Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-18 14:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 14:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-18 14:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 17:37 ` Jim Porter
2024-08-18 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 18:38 ` Jim Porter
2024-08-18 19:05 ` tomas
2024-08-13 11:02 ` New Emacs features via Google Summer of Code (or other similar stipend schemes) (was: as for Calc and the math library) Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 11:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-18 11:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 11:33 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-08-18 12:47 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-11 18:52 ` as for Calc and the math library Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-11 19:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-12 2:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-11 21:50 ` Christopher Dimech
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-08-12 5:30 arthur miller
2024-08-12 11:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 11:23 ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-12 11:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 12:11 ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-12 13:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 13:38 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-15 1:59 ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-15 3:06 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-15 6:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-15 13:28 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-15 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 7:16 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-13 12:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 13:10 ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-13 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 13:48 ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-13 21:43 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-14 5:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 8:45 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-14 9:56 ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-14 10:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 5:39 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-08-14 4:11 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-08-14 6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 6:28 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-08-14 6:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 14:00 ` Suhail Singh
2024-08-14 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 15:08 ` Suhail Singh
2024-08-14 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 16:00 ` Suhail Singh
2024-08-14 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 20:35 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15 5:00 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-15 7:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-15 20:09 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-16 5:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 16:38 ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-18 17:27 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-19 12:05 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-24 2:59 ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-24 2:59 ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-14 14:35 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-08-14 14:40 ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-14 14:47 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-08-14 14:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 5:29 ` Madhu
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