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From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>,
	incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: as for Calc and the math library
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 20:17:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-b97105a8-ab87-4fe9-be5c-53b32b37d48b-1723400268526@3c-app-mailcom-bs11> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86bk1zhrf5.fsf@gnu.org>


> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2024 at 5:59 AM
> From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
> To: "Ihor Radchenko" <yantar92@posteo.net>
> Cc: incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: as for Calc and the math library
>
> > From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
> > Cc: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 16:45:54 +0000
> >
> > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> >
> > > If Emacs is to have a math library, the library must use high-quality
> > > mathematical and numerical algorithms that are well-known and
> > > described in many textbooks on this subject matter...
> >
> > I agree with this point, but I suspect that writing such a library from
> > scratch might be a bit difficult.
>
> It depends on the scope and the person who'd like to work on that.
>
> > May I suggest an alternative: abstract out GNU Calc math routines to be
> > available from Elisp without having to read Calc sources.
> > Such a task would require:
> > 1. Documenting some Calc data structures
> > 2. Possibly refactoring some Calc functions to use simpler API.
> >
> > It would be a much easier task and can improve the existing
> > functionality.
>
> I don't think I understand well enough what will this entail in
> practice.  Can you show an example of doing this for a couple of
> functions?
>
> In any case, this job, as any other job in Emacs, needs its
> volunteer(s).  Until we have such volunteers, it's all academic.

For good mathematical libraries, you require a practicing applied
mathematician.  A programmer is not enough.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-11 18:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-10 22:48 as for Calc and the math library Emanuel Berg
2024-08-11  4:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-11 16:45   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-11 16:55     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-11 17:05     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-11 17:59     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-11 18:17       ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2024-08-11 18:32         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-11 19:53           ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-11 18:27       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-11 18:38         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-12  6:28           ` New Emacs features via Google Summer of Code (or other similar stipend schemes) (was: as for Calc and the math library) Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-12 11:09             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 12:10               ` New Emacs features via Google Summer of Code (or other similar stipend schemes) Joel Reicher
2024-08-12 18:59                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-12 22:28                   ` Pedro
2024-08-14 10:07                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-15 11:44                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-12 19:17               ` New Emacs features via Google Summer of Code (or other similar stipend schemes) (was: as for Calc and the math library) Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-13  8:12                 ` New Emacs features via Google Summer of Code (or other similar stipend schemes) Andrea Corallo
2024-08-18 11:48                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-18 12:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 12:52                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-18 13:39                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 13:56                           ` RTF import/export emacs (was: New Emacs features via Google Summer of Code (or other similar stipend schemes)) Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-18 14:14                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 14:35                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-18 14:38                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 17:37                                 ` Jim Porter
2024-08-18 18:16                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 18:38                                     ` Jim Porter
2024-08-18 19:05                                       ` tomas
2024-08-13 11:02                 ` New Emacs features via Google Summer of Code (or other similar stipend schemes) (was: as for Calc and the math library) Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 11:09                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-18 11:25                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 11:33                     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-08-18 12:47                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-11 18:52         ` as for Calc and the math library Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-11 19:13           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-12  2:24             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-11 21:50           ` Christopher Dimech
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-08-12  5:30 arthur miller
2024-08-12 11:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 11:23   ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-12 11:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 12:11       ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-12 13:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 13:38           ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-15  1:59             ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-15  3:06               ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-15  6:43                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-15 13:28                   ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-15 16:39                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13  7:16           ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-13 12:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 13:10               ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-13 13:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 13:48                   ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-13 21:43               ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-14  5:09                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14  8:45                   ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-14  9:56                     ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-14 10:43                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13  5:39       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-08-14  4:11         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-08-14  6:23           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14  6:28             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-08-14  6:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 14:00             ` Suhail Singh
2024-08-14 14:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 15:08                 ` Suhail Singh
2024-08-14 15:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 16:00                     ` Suhail Singh
2024-08-14 16:24                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 20:35                       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15  5:00                     ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-15  7:02                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-15 20:09                         ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-16  5:47                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 16:38                           ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-18 17:27                             ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-19 12:05                             ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-24  2:59                               ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-24  2:59                               ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-14 14:35               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-08-14 14:40                 ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-14 14:47                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-08-14 14:49                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14  5:29     ` Madhu

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