From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: pietru@caramail.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48580: Outline Mode using Phylogenetic Tree Nomenclature Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 12:53:40 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83fsyfkx3u.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9734"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 48580@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 22 12:54:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lkPGo-0002Lk-PK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 22 May 2021 12:54:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49850 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lkPGn-00025e-PA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sat, 22 May 2021 12:53:40 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <83fsyfkx3u.fsf@gnu.org> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:EsaCDtjyTp1B93HUYP1zMiyTNZRj6vEj6cU6i2ktvP26hwdJBcsWjnZsLynemdo+CyWKB Gx4KxKyPEiwRyjO84B/sT0+TiLUXJdmT0CVkrBmxibnU6Gogef/JLDa3f1nBAswV1ZzklVvNhGUF yD5nfy1qUl8x8laICpLtZOI7thLZEKMj2csjziWCw9BOFD9BJPyC4ILgGhpuhHd3mq4VYMeJR2SO leb8evrMVKw/soj0G1060B3UawvETreuHBOtcRtMrEGpEAHbaGG8Yk8UjICAFHFGMRRToMPUY9P0 04= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:zpbFvJooq28=:XALWf6WXt6BBxHLZDAKQTv WzsA5s/0AaXwMBO4hK1oL6HYfbLRDIe17SswoD36DX0a10VymlahpYPo3h9oYdL1ePdQLFG+F WsR1JZ3oKdxy3mqRS3OPYtuABYBmtW//cF154i7aln9GAsjHNIod2ro3gEZG8P4ERXBQUEJvw Mlne3XF6SbmU6rcZGdHcyoQA4sVHqu7Q/Xfz99l1gJ6wNzY/PFFYse16rn2MBPIzeXnWSexRt Q+soR36/YumrSCJNSR6SoOhVk4HveVyPr8Qupp5N0gcDP8ZobzRsi/HTDJs27vNFCj8WTlGRz FVEwgFZbqdoXrSz5oKakyO9M2+LJXZ5UOpeRhze3c4RfwBV/4MJ0yTz3/EJQC896rifhm5jWD 7R27BIP8RyPrwB9NmksNYfCxMPSaxD0wTCrpk/HJoW2zTZ3IaYS1aQDGDOSNuHOYIIfu/liz8 veYucdoxDjlxbvxDzMDZ29Vmqu0xHsRjiKCqqRlG3iUkO7sSdJvIzvPWtovrxst808IDxOyox N+Ot0ZDf6/Lx7v3Y5G/au67dfwEs6TQjkSiDroGT8GN7CHM5C/yTbvhdsOoW+2sy9s8hvHG7K GUbniYgwPvTZ9fmZ401v0FgagsaRnr1Thgl6dsar3Icl6VwpMYnRDXfATeQOmR0Tt/xBTNV8b SYaYl2RM5IMRaZLa7KNOVtLBO4/Qz6aV+CeWuSVp94Es0XO74rdT2NOYewN65mo63sEurgbgY UetYK9XxsIKYG6fEI1sqevrK5ZNYNMtl7L4L+JtC0psr/8ed9B0qvnSwGRxwtPiws7vQmuLI X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:207026 Archived-At: > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 8:10 PM > From: "Eli Zaretskii" > To: pietru@caramail.com > Cc: 48580@debbugs.gnu.org > Subject: bug#48580: Outline Mode using Phylogenetic Tree Nomenclature > > > From: pietru@caramail.com > > Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 09:56:15 +0200 > > Sensitivity: Normal > > > > I advise and lay out a system based on a formal Phylogenetic Tree that= implement > > Show-Hide Options. > > > > Show All (currently: Show All [unchanged]) > > Show Offsprings (currently: Show Children) > > Show Descendants (currently: Show Branches) > > Show Sub-Tree (currently: Show Subtree [unchanged]) > > Show Common Level (currently: Hide Sublevels) > > > > Hide Sub-Branches (currently: Hide Leaves - meaning Hide Body after he= ading) > > Hide Branches (currently: Hide Body, leaves all headings visible) > > Hide Current Branch (currently: Hide Entry - hide body of this heading= ) > > Hide Sub-Tree (currently: Hide Subtree [unchanged]) > > Hide Other (currently: Hide Other [unchanged]) > > FWIW, if I were presented with the menu labels as you suggest, I'd be > mightily confused by the unfamiliar terminology. "Branches", > "Levels", "Children", and "Tree" are familiar terms when dealing with > tree structures, whereas "Offsprings", "Descendants" and > "Sub-branches" aren't. The problem is not much about Levels, Children, and Tree. Things got problematic when people required additional words for showing a= nd hiding structures that go beyond Children, Levels and Tree. My focus is mostly a= bout "Entry" and Leaves. Leaves are always end-nodes, not related to the body ("hide leaves" means = "hide bodies" in outline.el [in addition to not being related to end-nodes either]). In= outline, leaves are expected to be the bodies of headlines. And even in standard tree nom= enclature, branches are not nodes (but "show branches means" "show nodes" in outline.el). Regards Peter > > >