From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: how to speed up Lisp devel time
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2024 20:56:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-a82902e9-c712-4d68-a3dd-dfe427a57c5f-1723229776616@3c-app-mailcom-bs13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <864j7tlgzm.fsf@gnu.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2024 at 5:54 AM
> From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
> To: "Emanuel Berg" <incal@dataswamp.org>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: how to speed up Lisp devel time
>
> > From: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>
> > Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2024 18:16:08 +0200
> >
> > >> These all are handled by the 'p' interactive code. So all
> > >> you need is this:
> > >>
> > >> (interactive "p")
> > >
> > > Okay, that is some improvement at last.
> >
> > I spoke to soon. That is not the same as
> >
> > (interactive (if (numberp current-prefix-arg)
> > (list current-prefix-arg)
> > current-prefix-arg))
>
> If you need to support a numeric optional argument, "p" is all you
> need. Anything else is redundant over-engineering at best.
>
> > That, (interactive "p"), is the same as sending 1 on M-x, but
> > here we want it to be the default behavior. Since nothing is
> > stated explicitely.
> >
> > M-x should be default, just as (function-name) should
> > be default.
> >
> > But it should be possible to do C-u 1 M-x to set 'end' to 1.
>
> It makes no sense to have "M-x" do something different from
> "C-u 1 M-x", when the argument says how many times to do some job.
> This is why in Emacs we use this convention consistently in all
> the commands. You are free to use other conventions in your code,
> but that's not how Emacs commands work, and we require any command
> to adhere to that convention.
>
> When you want to allow the user to specify more than a single argument
> to a command, things usually become much more complicated, so it is
> best to avoid such commands. If you must do that, a separate prompt
> for each argument is better than tricky conventions regarding the
> value of prefix arg.
I fully agree. Separate prompts for each argument is better, the way things
should be.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-09 18:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-09 7:16 how to speed up Lisp devel time Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09 7:39 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 10:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09 11:18 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 12:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09 13:54 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09 16:03 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 16:16 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 17:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09 18:56 ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2024-08-09 21:57 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 21:47 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 17:27 ` Yuri Khan
2024-08-09 21:21 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10 2:14 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10 6:01 ` Yuri Khan
2024-08-10 6:08 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10 6:44 ` Yuri Khan
2024-08-10 7:22 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10 7:51 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10 4:32 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10 5:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09 14:59 ` Eduardo Ochs
2024-08-09 16:19 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 18:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09 18:54 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-09 22:17 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 22:00 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 8:24 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 10:36 ` Christopher Dimech
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