From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some more analysis of the 2020 Emacs User Survey Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 02:48:28 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87a6tkedw7.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16967"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs developers , TEC To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 08 02:49:31 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kxguA-0004JK-Co for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 02:49:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33582 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxgu9-0006Gb-F4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 20:49:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52426) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxgtF-0005qz-R7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 20:48:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:33363) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxgtD-0000JG-Kn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 20:48:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1610070508; bh=nnUO0UPHYiu9s7y6Sr1nXfgZlulXRlwFyNp9U6sJEWg=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=TsKhEeFkVnSbVQhEtLFvY1sz3CLPJ96W+eRF1aCc3+bYTYY4f2lR9szVkTXZZ7iLj pUOLUZPnq6ZvdC1XYNnrWhHu8+lDvWSLVZCOibeKbWUxPVPplQcNrN6/jc+sR12WyL +HfH5CkLhvSHp9Uu3jbBur8cBvDmqi3TIWhDiu8E= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs10.server.lan [172.19.170.178]) (via HTTP); Fri, 8 Jan 2021 02:48:28 +0100 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:N5ke8AkcZ98e4kSSSIIEgwUoI60ii6WIGA2mhs3ZA3N1qRm+QGiAqLSq7E5RLou5OJJMa s+043OO4ANhWXBH5ShPnCkT/6qxjb5uJgrckyrPz/NSdZyDMoqqDlHGY79Er/pIGb4or3LShY/nm Nu4CBPRokWH7eqn3VVFQIFLFI60mEArhr6/3y8M5bqMGSQBEMtPM+jfNI+ApsJLTPEZ58t4sZL8Q AXdI9fZXClFOCi3jJIIGRVyYpQsb2R2roper0hw/81zIVBo8RKsVtOwwkgr0fAPc3hHPGMuY3tFn lo= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:dyZkOEOoahw=:sJWjioUKXKh8rA01Qi3pkj B4oFB+Ga4Mi1ZzqMmWR9K3XceG3NcS6s/Amrrqf92V9w3WDuUZTIZNaxha5X2tPHKzNMTCk7C 1U5L1bq3M1z1IksKejj/tytVNG29hUixOjxlPYEnzaiF3CqmuWM68oL6uqvBXNBZOvcX9Cq2w 3Sk0qk4JXf9snCZdRjly1BczOnPxmuQwxxMi2qUhXk+yuhYZOo12um/61qfjicdV8JRwgjh/L fXSUp26jUCjC8T/5U5vi3/jX8Kv2UDVAngr1QRbJfCXGlHH+0QKLFHtPLZvEeT4jbRNHER0mu OojlsbWmdWDnWhk+enFEHUX8VFoy+f4ZSPlcFfmWbaSUTFCZ118pdPadHfiv7Ix6E5hijxOMJ ypDnWYJFR8NyaZbSHg8gZoCulyhWgD4zJ+CAlGKoy0ETeU33c30Th7jkVWQP+BWKKCMkx6tFc NTIgXnYKFr6SWKb6Qh+d5XfCRZOBxSfebbewNUsDGvkV15VGKM8B6eupQTBZqNPltR7WflgSv Z/E4gXeDl0XdCCXlaVAlFLVXvum5HejTC49Cz+G00TX1nTuUWl2XnEMUtEE0gq9GBUKS5F2TF pOODVxc8D6DGs= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.22; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262722 Archived-At: There is no point in doing pairwise comparisons because the result is alwa= ys symmetric. You are really complicating simple things. I disagree that the survey was= very successful. Whatever analysis one does, respondents were heavily biased and the docume= ntation is only good enough to those who already are quite knowledgeable. =2D-------------------- Christopher Dimech General Administrator - Naiad Informatics - GNU Project (Geocomputation) - Geophysical Simulation - Geological Subsurface Mapping - Disaster Preparedness and Mitigation - Natural Resource Exploration and Production - Free Software Advocacy > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2021 at 6:55 AM > From: "Arthur Miller" > To: "TEC" > Cc: "Emacs developers" > Subject: Re: Some more analysis of the 2020 Emacs User Survey > > TEC writes: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I thought there was a lot of untapped potential in the Emacs user surv= ey > > results, so I decided to do my own analysis. > > > > You may find my work here: https://tecosaur.com/public/EmacsSurveyAnal= ysis2020.html [1]. > > > > This analysis was done with the intent of helping the Emacs community > > understand itself better, and which aspects of Emacs could benefit the > > most from development effort. > > > > I hope that this may be of some interest :) > > > > Timothy. > > > > [1]: You can get a few more formats by changing the file extension to > > one of: .pdf, .org, .org.html. > Nice work, thanks! > > At least now we can rule out "windows like" shortcuts are important; > since CUA mode to be the least used. > > Am I reading you correcnt when I interpret that TUI =3D Emacs in termina= l? > > I am surprised in that case, since I experience Emacs GUI window as a > much better terminal, but might be just me :-). > >