From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: carlmarcos@tutanota.com,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>,
help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Making a function than can only be used interactively
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2022 22:00:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-a4d9ba23-9c65-471b-b6cd-668291e44616-1657137601580@3c-app-mailcom-bs15> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YsTSQ3XTd9nuM1Gx@protected.localdomain>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 at 12:07 PM
> From: "Jean Louis" <bugs@gnu.support>
> To: carlmarcos@tutanota.com
> Cc: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, "Tassilo Horn" <tsdh@gnu.org>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Making a function than can only be used interactively
>
> * carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> [2022-07-04 22:52]:
> > Technically, you can use `completing-read` and `read-from-minibuffer` if you'd also
> > like to set values interactively, while calling the function non-interactively. One can
> > achieve more or less the same effect with setting values of local variables outside
> > the interactive expression. In this scenario, running the function non-interactively would
> > still force interactive input from the minibuffer.
> >
> > I am not sure if in practice that is ever desired.
>
> (interactive &optional ARG-DESCRIPTOR &rest MODES) -- this makes the
> function a command that may be tied to a key, and it helps in
> specifying the arguments to the function.
>
> In this context function may be run as command, or by pressing a
> key. However, it does not really mean it need to interact with user,
> not at all. It does not need to ask nothing of the user. In fact, it
> can just interactively, during Emacs session be called by user with
> M-x or by using a key. Beyond that, function may remain quite silent
> without interactivity.
>
> The above is one specific context where word "interactive" is used as
> in function (interactive).
>
> It does not exclude the other context that any function without
> (interactive) may do interactive activities, like ask user
> interactively for input.
If one does not mind interactive activities with the minibuffer for
a function without the interactive clause.
> Remember, there are 2 different contexts. One does not exclude the other.
>
> --
> Jean
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2022-07-03 19:16 Making a function than can only be used interactively carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-03 19:28 ` Bruno Barbier
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2022-07-03 19:36 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-03 19:53 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-07-03 20:17 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-04 4:51 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-07-05 23:13 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-03 20:14 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-03 20:27 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-03 20:51 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-03 21:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-03 21:29 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-03 22:01 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-03 22:45 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-04 1:13 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <jwvczelllyq.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org-N65lQ2m----2>
2022-07-04 10:36 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-04 10:55 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-07-04 11:43 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-07-04 13:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-04 14:08 ` Robert Pluim
2022-07-04 21:40 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-07-05 17:35 ` Jean Louis
2022-07-04 19:17 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-04 19:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-04 19:50 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-04 20:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-06 0:07 ` Jean Louis
2022-07-06 20:00 ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2022-07-06 20:29 ` Jean Louis
2022-07-07 11:03 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-07-07 21:06 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-07 21:28 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-07 22:14 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-08 3:40 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-08 6:08 ` Yuri Khan
2022-07-08 6:30 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-08 6:55 ` Yuri Khan
2022-07-08 11:44 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-09 2:05 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-10 4:33 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-08 12:06 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-08 12:11 ` Christopher Dimech
[not found] ` <N6Sh4jm--3-2@tutanota.com-N6ShCt5----2>
2022-07-08 12:18 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-08 16:14 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-07-08 20:29 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-07-08 21:09 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-08 22:17 ` Drew Adams
2022-07-08 22:34 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-09 14:53 ` Drew Adams
2022-08-09 2:24 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-09 2:06 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-08 23:19 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-04 20:53 ` Drew Adams
2022-07-05 23:30 ` no difference between interactive and "from Lisp" (was: Re: Making a function than can only be used interactively) Emanuel Berg
2022-07-06 2:28 ` no difference between interactive and "from Lisp" Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-06 3:42 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-04 1:06 ` Making a function than can only be used interactively Po Lu
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-07-04 19:32 Christopher Dimech
2022-07-04 20:10 Christopher Dimech
2022-07-04 20:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-04 20:46 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-07-04 21:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-04 21:59 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-07-05 22:34 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-04 21:07 Christopher Dimech
2022-07-04 21:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-04 22:05 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-07-04 22:35 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-04 23:33 ` Christopher Dimech
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