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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261131 Archived-At: > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 1:12 PM > From: "Lars Ingebrigtsen" > To: "Dmitry Gutov" > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars > > Dmitry Gutov writes: > > > But... can it work well? Showing the toolbar in some modes yet hiding > > it in others? Jumping window heights are a known source of annoyance. > > Yes. If we want to go in a toolbars-only-in-modes-where-it's-useful > direction, we'll have to fix the height annoyance. Well, we should do > that anyway... It can be done as is done with Gimp, nobdy complains about a detached tool= bar in Gimp. I can be as Speedbar is. > -- > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no > >