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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260306 Archived-At: > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 4:43 PM > From: "Eli Zaretskii" > To: "Evgeny Zajcev" > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Scrolling up at the end of buffer > > > From: Evgeny Zajcev > > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 16:52:18 +0300 > > Cc: emacs-devel > > > > For me, scrolling is just a way to *move* your point fast in a predict= able way, showing maximum content to > > the user, that is not what we get with default Emacs settings right no= w. > > That's because Emacs always behaved differently in this regard. It is > very natural to me, probably because I'm accustomed to it (and miss it > in other applications). To each his/her own. Natural and being accustomed to it are two different things. Being accust= omed to something is likely not natural for the rest. Perhaps it could be describ= ed?