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From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Adding a generic mathematical library
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 16:58:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-86d1ead5-dfe0-4c9f-8e0e-6117c9b50606-1721573923884@3c-app-mailcom-bs10> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86v80yby1r.fsf@gnu.org>



> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2024 at 2:49 AM
> From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
> To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> Cc: incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Adding a generic mathematical library
>
> > From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
> > Cc: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 16:41:38 +0200
> > Sensitivity: Normal
> >
> > > > If just Eli and Richard could spend a couple of hours
> > > > explaining what improvements are called for?
> > >
> > > I don't know what math-sin-cos-raw is about, but as for math-hypot,
> > > there's no need to implement anything, since this function is standard
> > > in any C libm, and we can easily expose it to Lisp if we need to.
> >
> > Eli. perhaps there can be a math library that calc can use.  We will
> > then have a generic math library, and calc and other packages could use
> > some of its functionality.  Would that work for you ?  But if Emanuel
> > does not want to touch it, what is the point !
>
> This is too abstract a question.
>
> The original issue was not about Calc, it was about a standalone math
> library.  For that, we should first define the scope.  One possibility
> is to expose to Lisp everything in a typical libm, but is that needed?
> Another possibility is to provide a statistical library (average,
> median, standard deviation, t-Student, F-test, chi-square, etc.) --
> but do we need this?  Etc. etc. -- "math library" can be interpreted
> in many different ways.
>
> If we are now talking about improving Calc, someone who knows Calc
> well should describe what is needed, and we can then discuss that in
> detail.

Using Emacs Calc as a foundation for a new mathematical library
in Emacs is a practical and efficient approach.  Calc is a powerful tool
with extensive mathematical capabilities, so building on it allows
for leveraging its strengths while focusing on specific needs and
functionalities.

I rather have the people who work on calc do it as they have much more
experience and grasp of what a math library for emacs should do.




  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-21 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-12 16:47 Add elisa to GNU ELPA Sergey Kostyaev
2024-07-16 12:54 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-16 13:57   ` Sergey Kostyaev
2024-07-16 16:04     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-16 16:35       ` Sergey Kostyaev
2024-07-17 13:21         ` Andrew Hyatt
2024-07-16 16:41       ` Sergey Kostyaev
2024-07-16 17:02         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-16 17:47           ` Adding a generic mathematical library Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-16 22:06             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-17  2:54               ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-17  5:58                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-19 16:16               ` Richard Stallman
2024-07-19 17:38                 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21  5:20                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-20 12:45                 ` Max Nikulin
2024-07-20 13:53                   ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21  5:19                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21  6:15                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21  7:40                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21  8:45                       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21  8:29                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21  7:27                   ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21  8:03                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21  9:14                       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21  9:48                         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 11:20                           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 11:53                             ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 12:10                               ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 12:27                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 12:46                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 13:03                                   ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 13:17                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 14:33                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-21 14:41                                         ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 14:49                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-21 14:58                                             ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2024-07-21 15:02                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-21 15:18                                                 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 13:18                                     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 13:26                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 14:35                                         ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 19:28                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 19:33                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 19:51                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 20:01                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 20:17                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 12:41                                 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 13:13                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 13:41                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 12:20                               ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 12:04                             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 14:30                 ` hypotenuse (was: Re: Adding a generic mathematical library) Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 14:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-21 15:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-21 15:12                       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 15:42                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-21 16:13                           ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 15:54                         ` hypotenuse Max Nikulin
2024-07-21 16:12                           ` hypotenuse Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-21 16:17                             ` hypotenuse Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 19:01                     ` hypotenuse (was: Re: Adding a generic mathematical library) Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 19:13                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 17:38                   ` tomas
2024-11-23 13:33                     ` hypotenuse Petteri Hintsanen
2024-11-24  9:16                       ` hypotenuse tomas
2024-07-17  7:09             ` Adding a generic mathematical library Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-17  7:54               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-17  7:56               ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-18  6:07                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-18  6:45                   ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-18  7:12                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-18  7:49                       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21  4:56                         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-18  7:29                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-18  7:57                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-18  9:03                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-21  4:52                         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-18  8:15                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-18  9:04                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-18  9:13                       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21  4:59                         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-19 13:22                       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-19 16:12                         ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-19 16:15                           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-07-19 16:29                             ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-19 16:16               ` Richard Stallman
2024-07-19 18:00                 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-17 21:26   ` Add elisa to GNU ELPA Sergey Kostyaev
2024-07-17 22:12     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-18  3:45       ` Sergey Kostyaev
2024-07-18 11:06       ` Sergey Kostyaev
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-07-23 20:00 Adding a generic mathematical library Kepa
2024-07-25  4:19 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-25 11:32   ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-25 14:20     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-07-25 15:16       ` T.V Raman
2024-07-25 15:34       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-25 17:12         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-25 17:25       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-25 14:24     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-25 15:49       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-25 17:23         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-27 14:57 Shouran Ma
2024-07-27 15:49 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-27 19:07 Shouran Ma
2024-07-27 19:23 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-28  0:29   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-28 10:58     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-28 11:39       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-28 12:28         ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-28 13:02           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-30  2:53     ` Richard Stallman
2024-07-30  3:53       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-30  6:26       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-30  7:20         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-30 11:30           ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-30 22:56             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-31 16:00               ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-31 21:15                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-01  6:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-01  6:42                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-31 21:26                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-27 19:40 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-28  0:24   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-28 13:34   ` Immanuel Litzroth
2024-07-28 13:56     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-28 14:07       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-28 10:46 ` Emanuel Berg

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