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For instance, "Show Branches", "Show > > Children", "Hide Leaves", "Hide Sublevels". Lot of esoteric > > names (leaves, brances), and then it switches to human > > beings (children). > > Suggestions pietru, what do you think they should be called? > > Maybe a clearer distinction between the tree and human world > is called for? Deciding if using trees (branches, leaves), humans (children), or levels (= sublevels) would help. Also if there is a "show" can there be an equivalent "hide" using the same= tag (e.g. "Hide Branches" and "Show Branches" [Not "Hide Branches" and "Show Subleve= ls"]). "Hide Subtree" and "Hide Sublevels" is also confusing. > -- > underground experts united > https://dataswamp.org/~incal > > >