From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: RE: Auto Fill Comments Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 20:43:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: <54331aa0-6a9a-4809-9f2d-88deee31558b@default> <83pn3zp8bu.fsf@gnu.org> <20201127160216.GA27998@tuxteam.de> <20201127175346.GB27998@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7836"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 20:45:46 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kijgf-0001ux-Q4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 20:45:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45278 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kijge-0002Ed-Jr for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 14:45:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50338) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kijeF-0002EQ-Gz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 14:43:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:42455) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kijeD-0006Yu-KD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 14:43:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1606506182; bh=lXiSYp6NB6rkJw5WaBf5YOHK32JN8EXCllnZhZtBkWA=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=kBSpouuVwEoiEGaEh5eLnKgr8OinRIQhFK0k+dEut98PjgUvfsCBSaMLOSj0APdg6 kYEnCKz4AcVVWc6Hx99rKXMaU852kw8PnorNuPI6eI0DMDzgN3YJ5V2feHYZI/TJRf vB1DnVjXGh2OYNKon6c4/BSN3FCG57r266+WTrD0= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs12.server.lan [172.19.170.180]) (via HTTP); Fri, 27 Nov 2020 20:43:02 +0100 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:oqaDwrmYQR7CROXjILTieB1+HvFsceS7b5m60PW1/bC6NLsx16TVBOnPhFG4SjOfCdFLZ jGJLVEtoPUPEjlNylBZVZ7BXJB9/1fwRstBo//ca+VdBkL4hSXplmFt+Z21pXsxOzijQ8/+l5Ojf 8H/2PjXaHFg44KzZo+2CMdPdcnwj7wKcrl0NiV+JdNndHE4lhuSqAI2mS2HlXGkPUiZ1wNyEf5pa fWGca8Nq6jW01c7Wa1+6S9AMarGvB8BjhxfXvTcj0tPWAUPS1RuhzXmjJI07b2r4kTVAeVVVCn93 0M= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:rDZHQ8n+y18=:EQP6RcZIVX1WWP/Rrv48lc Z5tszo6CO37CWDkpH/Epq1q66iLjMD2qjtdaQOQ+Q/jiP5SwqMw0JNN5XNCDaScoo2tTI230R h9I7T786r+eA3qe/aCTlhqR5PJMSRJxXElXCXn+9DOwVuvuhda0MMXZ5e3qkiMJPUqndmnWeI K4HVmRnOoA00f2Bj2QUshmpcXil42k0IkubU1dycKCSMAYponqkIVikhgK2zoMoyrs4ByNgIw xJnxrw2mOP4BXSqU9tmYcTWEfywHEz716rGPHXWFaxCohV6x4o/ER0sKDsvEtOtusdyU0Dupi XMEx/2f/68IuVg9Q3y0GPlIV1DcJPtL0Yxhzgm0nUZwo4TydV+JvOCpVD/uV0keSWjqONq9Qp /dnAZgFmTKpdZsRYNSN7z0h1J3+tZQnM26lTa+IwAcjt3wXzoDLABBaMrVe7RaRTuC2+TLgqX bwW2OmjgwaDc6QVEMH7qCRJkWn9JMnJjhxsU6WT0Mf9G+2o5/ig9z+GjkvP5bUzLOAWs6vZB+ 44/6YhpMaQX9lIkeZJncgpJpq3xaQJTvfwevJXh8SAxJLhkH1Fr/JlrqM6X3UJh8Z/U0slgw/ M9jyYUA1hj/0E= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.15; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125686 Archived-At: > Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 at 8:06 PM > From: "Drew Adams" > To: "Christopher Dimech" , tomas@tuxteam.de > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: RE: Auto Fill Comments > > > My experience has been that as I got to do more things in emacs lisp, > > the understanding needed quickly exceeded my rate of learning. > > I'd put it this way, speaking of myself and others I know: > > "the understanding possible quickly exceeded..." > > IOW, as usual in life, the more you know the more > questions you have - and the more interesting the > questions are. > > It's not so much that I _need_ to know all the > stuff I've newly become aware of. It's that I > _can_ learn it. And yes, sometimes it's not > immediately obvious which of all the new info > I glimpse on the horizon I really do need > immediately. > > > One can get to sophisticated constructs, even when trying to do > > relatively simple things. You never know where your original > > plan could get you. Many times the importance of a work is not > > measured by its consequences (i.e. by the final command). > > 100% agreement. > > But again, this is not a failing from the fact > that all that additional info is _available_. Agreed, at times it is about discovery and re-discovery. > It can be a failing if you can't see how you > really want (or need) to proceed, to get to the > info you most immediately need. > >