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envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132033 Archived-At: > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 9:44 AM > From: "Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor" > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Emacs i18n > > >> > The production of research in any other language than English and > >> > French has essentially come to a halt. > >> That's what it looks like from the (big) bubble we're in, yes. > >> But I think China would beg to differ. > > China's opinion is irrelevant and full of shit. > > Your prejudice doesn't change the fact that a significant (and arguably > an increasing) amount of research is done in chinese. To get really back on topic, nobody started to work on multilingualisation seriously. I support the idea of a multilingualisation framework, but a f= ocus on particular languages such as chinese is misguided. Peaple conversant in particular language can then have the capability of doing that specific work.