From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: daniela-spit@gmx.it Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:08:24 +0100 Message-ID: References: <837dq4mcb1.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13903"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 44935@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 29 19:10:38 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kjR9h-0003V6-CO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:10:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53790 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjR9f-0003Sz-R6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Then one sends a r= eport and people > > start sending in in a long winded road to find the appropriate > > channel. > > We can consider those features of reporting bugs still in > development. I never knew since recently that there are various > reporting bug functions. You can discover it easier by using > completion such as ivy package. Still in development? How much thinking do people have to do for this. I can make 34 mailing lists in a few hours! > There is: > > - report-calc-bug > - calc-report-bug > - c-submit-bug-report > - TeX-submit-bug-report > - org and Emacs maybe others > > > You look at "Emacs Asking for help" and "Emacs Reporting bugs" and you= get only two things > > help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org and bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org. Have been following= discussions here > > and people herd together telling others they are doing everything back= wards. And insisting > > everything is fine, makes serious people not happy at all. I do not w= ant to hurt anyone, > > but there exists a wall between maintainers and users who basically us= e Gnu Tools to do > > something else. > > Users could assign to themselves specific level such as Beginner, > Intermediate, Advance and God. > > Beginner would be welcomed to submit bugs and kindly explained that > there exists specialized mailing list with more people able to help > it. > > Intermediate user would be simply told to go somewhere else. > > Advanced user would be anyway submitting patches and be active in > Emacs development, so there would be no problem with this level. > > God would never tell anything to anybody just as what is usual that > God does, I guess M-x something... > > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id UBOBIDnkw1/nMwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 18:11:05 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id EDUmHDnkw18CNQAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 44935@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.78 X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (headers rsa verify failed) header.d=gmx.net header.s=badeba3b8450 header.b=BwTYG9On; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-TUID: 4PBrNVJw2nI5 > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 6:22 PM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: daniela-spit@gmx.it > Cc: "Eli Zaretskii" , 44935@debbugs.gnu.org > Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variabl= e, overwriting user options > > * daniela-spit@gmx.it [2020-11-29 20:02]: > > Correct, everything tells you it is part of Emacs. Then one sends a r= eport and people > > start sending in in a long winded road to find the appropriate > > channel. > > We can consider those features of reporting bugs still in > development. I never knew since recently that there are various > reporting bug functions. You can discover it easier by using > completion such as ivy package. Still in development? How much thinking do people have to do for this. I can make 34 mailing lists in a few hours! > There is: > > - report-calc-bug > - calc-report-bug > - c-submit-bug-report > - TeX-submit-bug-report > - org and Emacs maybe others > > > You look at "Emacs Asking for help" and "Emacs Reporting bugs" and you= get only two things > > help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org and bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org. Have been following= discussions here > > and people herd together telling others they are doing everything back= wards. And insisting > > everything is fine, makes serious people not happy at all. I do not w= ant to hurt anyone, > > but there exists a wall between maintainers and users who basically us= e Gnu Tools to do > > something else. > > Users could assign to themselves specific level such as Beginner, > Intermediate, Advance and God. > > Beginner would be welcomed to submit bugs and kindly explained that > there exists specialized mailing list with more people able to help > it. > > Intermediate user would be simply told to go somewhere else. > > Advanced user would be anyway submitting patches and be active in > Emacs development, so there would be no problem with this level. > > God would never tell anything to anybody just as what is usual that > God does, I guess M-x something... > >