From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 18:54:26 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20201126182734.GA5175@tuxteam.de> <54331aa0-6a9a-4809-9f2d-88deee31558b@default> <83pn3zp8bu.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20270"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Arthur Miller To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 18:57:21 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kihzj-00058H-0U for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 18:57:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44494 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kihzh-0005nb-RB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 12:57:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58664) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kihxX-0005n6-Tv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 12:55:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:34605) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kihxU-0007th-7f for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 12:55:03 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1606499666; bh=ziI5Ztu6ADgxbGacq2/ozS9ngtg6swgC+DSsCkzhL+E=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=DXKU5O5ij8RQlYlSMWYgaN3RqMLJ+DyNk+TDYf4PtEOhyiNi4Td3NxT2kbmoZBheG kOYgDTXc5FrZSqBJB68fVb7C00dp8hBs/WV+AZ2u/Sl+2stvHd0lKR6ZECx5IcS3Lm X2BPy6qGrzr52PJZ34BD38hzHMY/opvOOU9HEAv8= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs12.server.lan [172.19.170.180]) (via HTTP); Fri, 27 Nov 2020 18:54:26 +0100 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:XW4FXnvjxqp4ITKTJghyKZP6MzyEwVm+t4AGmrXUlmOHLJQybftfiRaqn6lliK1tiU7hc A2l6J/SyRXt0BrBXkawfSJAP54/8AxdbDETHxqxsAodfuj8p7uy608RqSw4gaK4KERayniodFbDb vHW9La+h161mhSfLdMttYvJctuUbvW29OrkUE4WqRqQiY01HVHP8fsviRDI8FxmhjDkV2tNei0eR 7M3XMRb6xAlpILACx3m707NHmejWg7MqZTlmfqtV31msDAGyVKpHtDyLZrW9/yDG5i0ff/xy1EzQ VQ= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Br9U8EscCbI=:4DXy9xV9VMM/n5rje15sEv bSmVlvfj2u7NipSn8s6AvGawDMsQI9tkNm+pXKdyozC3U9GQLrrDq2hZa5zcNK1L3mSSLPUPQ iGjEmsRzGuxZYL2SHNdptBGtVvAbFCKYGAXwIzXI1jrADDvD6k9WETEybmoCYfguECuSd5I75 X2gLUVcSEH4JcmhSe12wa6u2Y1G5TkGcsBr2GvnXxF9M3cZ1XQ9SG0iONqlP8Tb0WlzQAl2Mg ePrrIrpvezFKZdfJ8kAIqNNO/xwEPUeUaBqR9ca07XZiIoAG2zKqNmgwU091+Bcth+wXCT4Ng lbugXeZ0vLLYrhZX2D3mehpakVYD+UWgm20wmj55twux7m4l3yQu/cdLu1jBiZqVhkVvo2l7H +jKcwbYAlY9r9H0UrBLY1uNNDNbhn4mpAtypntlQHACIWGEdao1AedoNNvIBz5lqo1QOS1+Ml 2UVpQoFXjZPTAl0KJrlJS7/RCi/aWYMAPVMhLQg4LpCDzDYgjsdZGZ65iajHxYyfSJ1qF2Drc zf91P60ytoMfyx8mXlVHrFdKgyQOteAOFn+PGnTxKHY568ngSlslPZi+Q/3ApQoHvWO1ReM/C qBOn/jm4s7llo= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.21; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125675 Archived-At: > Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 at 6:00 PM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: "Arthur Miller" > Cc: "Christopher Dimech" , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments > > * Arthur Miller [2020-11-27 19:43]: > > I learned it through hacking init file, and I am not good at Emacs > > internals, I don't have time to sitt hours and go through all > > if-defs and thousands of lines of lisp. I wish I did. But when I > > don't know how to do something, I ask, and if they tell me I don't > > understand it or have missed it, I don't tell them they manual sux > > or code is horribly structured. Sometimes error is in our selves, in > > this case, Dimech is probably not used to read the technical manuals > > and that's not more. > > I was asking different type of questions on #emacs IRC back in 2016, > and back then I did not know hot to look into references to get myself > Emacs insights. When one does not know where to look to there can be > bunch of references but one cannot find it. Today I have different > types of questions. There are progress stages for Emacs users. As things get more complex, figuring out how to look becomes problematic. Today, looking far things has became a subject in itself. If things get more complicated that you cannot understand it in your lifetime (that time could come), then we all got to rethink the whole thing, even though we don't like it. > I can remember `info' and `man' from 1999 and 2000, I had confusion > and did not understand why two systems. There was one time before that > where I was learning GNU/Linux exclusively from books. At the time I > did not know that `info' or `man' exists on system. > > On command line I tried with: $ help, but that brought me at that time > incomprehensible list of bash commands. > > There are various stages that users pass through until they get > it. > > Jean > >