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envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:139922 Archived-At: > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 at 4:45 PM > From: "uzibalqa" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "Po Lu" , pquessev@gmail.com, help-gnu-emacs@gnu= .org > Subject: Re: [External] : Running emacs without any customisation > > > ------- Original Message ------- > On Friday, October 14th, 2022 at 3:49 AM, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 at 3:19 PM > > > From: "Po Lu" luangruo@yahoo.com > > > To: "Christopher Dimech" dimech@gmx.com > > > Cc: pquessev@gmail.com, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > Subject: Re: [External] : Running emacs without any customisation > > > > > > Christopher Dimech dimech@gmx.com writes: > > > > > > > Aren't X resource settings overriding the equivalent settings in E= macs > > > > init files for parameters of the initial frame? > > > > > > No. What the OP is complaining about is X resources providing defaul= ts > > > when nothing is set in the user init file. > > > > > > It could be that the OP set up a black system theme, and emacs is taki= ng > > the information from there. That's why he is seeing a dark emacs insta= nce > > when using the command "emacs". > > > > Have no idea about what is the minimum settings for init file, that st= ops > > settings form X resources taking effect. There are so many ways inform= ation > > can be obtained that it could be difficult to track. Hence the confusi= on. > > I generally have my init file without inhibiting x-resources. Because m= y init > file is broken, I got to rely on some default setup. Would there be sid= e-effects > if I always inhibit x-resources when using my init file? > > The problem I have with using x-resources is that the text in the mode l= ine > is extremely difficult to read. Cannot see a thing. Perhaps we could do as follows. Emacs could provide light-default.el and dark-default.el for the case when users need a quick emacs setup that is easy to read. Might use modus-themes because I would think has the best visibility for both light and dark theme. And there would be no need to inhibit x-resources as is standard.