From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: kreyren@rixotstudio.cz
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 12:35:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-2294fa98-c12c-4ce2-b418-fe95678c7eac-1645961743162@3c-app-mailcom-bs09> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <95a64961-9a77-bd7a-a4c2-77ae3f9e5bb7@rixotstudio.cz>
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 11:18 PM
> From: "Jacob Hrbek" <kreyren@rixotstudio.cz>
> To: "Dmitry Gutov" <dgutov@yandex.ru>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine
>
> > There is a lot of Free Software written by Russians that you are are
> almost certainly using. Maybe not entirely but at least in part. -- Gutov
>
> I am slav with lot of russians and ukrainians friends you can't even
> imagine how much this hurts me to do this as someone who loves and uses
> Free Software in everything and who hates restrictions on privacy and
> freedom and who is endlessly appreciate of all the work that russian
> citizens did for Free Software and for me like all the helping that i
> got with issues including kindness of submitting a patches for a
> problems that i had, because I feel fucking sick and guilty, my mental
> health is in absolute shit and i didn't sleep for more then 3 hours a
> day since the war started blaming myself for all the work that i've done
> on Free Software and in Free Software Activism in the last ~14 years,
> because my work in Free Software contributed to the capability of
> russian military to do this war to bomb cities full of my brothers and
> sisters, killing newborns, children, elderly and committing war crimes
> against unarmed citizens scared for their life who are hiding at their
> homes.
Your work benefits everybody, remember that. Don't let guilt turn you
into a vegetable. Am quite sure that you have not done much direct work
for Putin that helps him coordinate his plan better.
Please continue with your good work.
> > And not all of us support this terrible, unjust war. There are
> anti-war protests all around the world, including Moscow and
> Saint-Petersburg. -- Gutov
>
> Russian citizens have a major role in this war i know the cost of
> opposing putin in russia some of my family even experienced it first
> hand in what happened before the Velvet Revolution in Czechia, but it's
> no where near the cost that ukrainians are paying right now.
>
> Please go join them and please convince others to do the same. The whole
> world supports ukrainians and the whole world will support russians
> overthrowing that war criminal in moscow, but there has to be more
> people doing the protests and calling on the russian forces to oppose
> their leader to do it.
>
> On 2/27/22 02:10, Dmitry Gutov wrote:
> > On 27.02.2022 02:02, Jacob Hrbek wrote:
> >> > FOSS people saying somewhere no to war?
> >>
> >> I do and I've made a statement on that in
> >> https://qoto.org/@kreyren/107851975317924221 in short taking steps to
> >> reduce russian access to my software and hardware by revoking the right
> >> to use, study, improve and distribute + considering to take identity
> >> verification and vetting for sensitive projects such as open-source
> >> aircraft that could be used as a drone.
> > There is a lot of Free Software written by Russians that you are are
> > almost certainly using. Maybe not entirely but at least in part.
> >
> > And not all of us support this terrible, unjust war. There are anti-war
> > protests all around the world, including Moscow and Saint-Petersburg.
> >
> > There are certain kinds of software that are more problematic than
> > others, though. For instance, face recognition software now currently
> > used by Russian government on its citizens was at some point written by
> > probably well-meaning developers. Given how quickly it has been
> > retargeted at protestors, I don't think it's a good idea to have *any*
> > country use such software. Though that ship has probably sailed.
>
> --
> Jacob Hrbek, In support of ukraine sovereignty #supportUkraine
>
>
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2022-02-26 12:31 phantom invasion and ghostly resistance Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-26 14:36 ` Jean Louis
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2022-02-26 23:57 ` no to war in Ukraine Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
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2022-02-27 0:17 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27 0:18 ` Jacob Hrbek
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2022-02-27 0:59 ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 8:46 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 9:17 ` butterfly effect Jean Louis
2022-03-01 9:47 ` no to war in Ukraine Uwe Brauer
2022-03-01 10:35 ` goncholden
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2022-03-01 11:00 ` goncholden
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2022-02-27 8:48 ` Alexandre Garreau
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2022-02-27 11:35 ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
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2022-02-27 12:02 ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-27 13:51 ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 12:01 ` Max Brieiev
2022-02-28 12:31 ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 14:58 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 16:59 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-28 15:22 ` why conflict [Was: Re: no to war in Ukraine] Alexandre Garreau
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2022-03-01 9:24 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-01 16:22 ` War is bad " dick
2022-03-01 17:05 ` why conflict " Alfred M. Szmidt
2022-02-28 14:42 ` no to war in Ukraine Alexandre Garreau
2022-03-01 7:27 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-01 14:34 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 18:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-02-27 18:40 ` Christopher Dimech
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2022-02-28 12:12 ` Yuri Khan
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