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>=20 > You guys on the other hand know it so well you can even do > professional translations=2E=2E=2E >=20 > So you, the Elysium ones, will attempt to help the ignorant > masses by translating =2E=2E=2E uhm, CS and programming software > manuals?! >=20 > Hey, just a suggestion, shouldn't you elite guys instead try > to bring literacy, basic math, and punctuality, to your poor > countrymen that cannot read English 2021? Should not local schools do that? I can function in one or two languages, but still not under any obligation to bring literacy and mathematical expression=2E I can certainly bring cl= arity but I mostly do it in english=2E If one wants to be a disciple of a guru,= one has to go beyond one's limitations, rather than expecting the guru to sust= ain their ego=2E=20 =20 > Hahah THE FRENCH, the guys with the French Revolution, the > Enlightenment Movement, the Paris Commune, even the supersonic > airliner the Concorde :) HAHAHAH :D >=20 > OKAY I know this isn't what you mean because it doesn't make > any sense whatsoever, but it is how it sounds, I still don't > understand what you actually mean TBH ??? >=20 > >> Which, BTW, is exactly like the French are, so why on Earth > >> keep up with this charade? > > > > good question, do you think they=E2=80=99re aren=E2=80=99t the same fr= ench? > > what are the sociological differences you noticed between > > each groups? >=20 > The French were probably used to everyone speaking French and > if there was a foreigner around either it was an international > guy who spoke French or some other type of international guy, > namely from the French colonial empire, and everyone loved and > spoke great beautiful and cultural French and there was never > any other annoying other language around to mess up this > orderly and fantastic state that everyone was happy with? >=20 > No, I don't know actually, but that would be one guess that > comes to hand, yes=2E So, if you don't want it to, yeah, stop > brining this up, is what I'd do=2E >=20 > --=20 > underground experts united > https://dataswamp=2Eorg/~incal >=20 >=20 >