From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Running emacs without any customisation Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 07:32:35 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87edvceeph.fsf@yahoo.com> <875ygoedjr.fsf@yahoo.com> <871qrceb1r.fsf@yahoo.com> <82r0zbkegq.fsf@gmail.com> <82mt9zkbmz.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25583"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: pquessev@gmail.com, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 14 07:33:51 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ojDKR-0006Ry-F4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 07:33:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50668 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojDKQ-00074B-Dc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 01:33:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47064) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojDJm-00073n-Cl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 01:33:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:34847) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojDJk-0005SL-Kp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 01:33:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1665725555; bh=8nqMdZaBF9uz2D5dFDJ8R/rXd3WTfTq+y/tU5OaqhtY=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=boVNsdFQCkcl0ur9DEIO/WAE/ypEUF7+gGjV72VU2HqXxT4AjvNbTdSAXVHXxBFFT 2c5IWtG0ak4GXakYD8XY5BKCcICQNvHTeS6v8ATxX4veo98Gb6dBEuG/Obm6qW3jX4 4rjVhjVd+Ipy48F/LsVuUWvfJLFQ3Gihz7y/M/a4= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [92.251.127.164] ([92.251.127.164]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs03.server.lan [172.19.170.169]) (via HTTP); Fri, 14 Oct 2022 07:32:35 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:eqZ1XQBIwvgnqV3+NQXRHBc9LIwteBD7zGSovVUSVuWv+r90o2QYM3qDwcxxfCfIJe1aO aSnYB5Zn0Ur0xD603/Hd/Fdt6EytOAJZnkM4eK8KLQHmmFMKnu02vCCmMSirrgOvCDhbQYE6kXiB WMRLqqWkuV2RNJdGuH38Jp890RgvSOakgqoFw37O0Y/XzlCUWlOaBLb2VOmdd89+WfRUbjp/Jhrv 06a7SSCEzuiAPfyYOeRGJbStYZ7I2UtiXc64ghXpKwHxXj28QOAiMrrLoMmSyQIVa0ofvevcYh5P NI= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:nHNNC02ZjKc=:Vm9pv531lEmhdYC3PEEOM2 FTATdlur8Y3XQblS0LQqLSHZusmWQwYB0ja8mIJBC/bjAZQABWGrsJjeoCZ3B9C6GTsGxkaU7 D13Iz0QLNBzun5pFM1+Vwt0hTfs9g4xdH3r+6bfH4B7PQBr1b+nBTLz9oZ1nw33Nj1BOC1qZg hTqgfTyYpWIBbda1hgx/jq2GsvbRCGTxu3S5WVoI/07OdUGhM59NDGPOutURn70ni9JH8pfR9 0gGb13LqEEHvLzDt9WrshljpqL2wnVkxfiO8YMKTvOXJCHJrMswYXX3o6s+WUW+kDtqAzMY1N zg3g+HnBYS6ha7xc1jMplUINP46rllFQJveqvhFnyOj2x+SwMxXWil5LGf/UOlKc9qRhQwm2h qZU35tjf0qc+JFFdIRBtHnZJ7346qXHY6rYVrNg3TyM27RA++Qu+J/RtXK6Dc03r8XCaupPWc OuuTpW7UzHkPkk0BsjLX1TrpXkouh7KRxWX1ol04IBprUii7O3si9u6WZfijcZrzmG0yoNuFE Ah+apEYG/tFLdWTVANbc86Db7TB/mffnB3gRvAjjiI+dnHjn0EmhTMHJEcp6Lr4sXLHzom/oY U13cUMeGqGeiMMlFxCY6NoUsUP6clUZR9MwZk/9b1aTM5eKYkVx1WZhBS/zJBwiDKS6IrqHTX Qpn+j3f4ccFJ8/zx+tPvnc4Oinybb1exzDvwpVVl98Tv3FM7kwUQAvpN/7jg4aqhMUeVVrEwD r9cWpA9HC9vpJZNoFhctUsSCNok4T9RnDjZXUQtp4xsPx7RetfqBtV++D9s0IBUEApi6cThQ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.15; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:139925 Archived-At: > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 at 4:14 PM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: pquessev@gmail.com, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: [External] : Running emacs without any customisation > > * Christopher Dimech [2022-10-13 19:45]: > > You are completely correct Pascal. Emacs does take *.background > > and much more from whatever there is in the x-resource database. > > > > Keeping in mind that the x-resource database can be modified by > > programs the user does not fully have control of, I resist the > > school of thought that says that one should obey the x-resource > > database whatever they are. Using the x-resource database in > > emacs blindly in unwise. > > It is not blindly as it is users' choice. Am not so sure about that. Perhaps for some people. But I can see many users using a configuration tool that takes a user selection. Although in principle it is user-defined, the settings might not be best for emacs display. We might be expecting users to learn too much for what they consider as just a tool like the many other gadgets they use nowadays. Have suggested the possibility that emacs also provides defaults.el for light and dark theme. At least they could start from something better than is currently provided.