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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:313758 Archived-At: Ranting exclusively to oneself, without any external input or perspective = is problematic. Without external feedback or differing viewpoints, it's challenging to gai= n a realistic perspective on the problem being ranted about. Ultimately leading to unex= amined positions without the benefit of alternative viewpoints. Without external communica= tion you will get frustrated and isolated. Sharing with others is healthy, providing potenti= al solutions if you are correct in your analysis. =2D---- Christopher Dimech Administrator General - Chilkat Design Build - Naiad Informatics - Gnu Pro= ject Society has become too quick to pass judgement and declare someone Persona Non-Grata, the most extreme form of censure a country can bestow. In a new era of destructive authoritarianism, I support Richard Stallman. Times of great crisis are also times of great opportunity. I call upon you to make this struggle yours as well ! https://www.gnu.org https://www.fsf.org/ > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 7:09 PM > From: "Eshel Yaron" > To: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Subject: Blog post > > Hi Emacs, > > I recently wrote a post on my blog that criticized a certain development > in Emacs, and I think I owe some people here an apology, in particular, > Eli and Thierry. I never expected that rant to spread so widely > (somebody posted it on HN IIUC), and I was wrong to be so harsh. I'm so= rry. > > I hope to continue contributing to Emacs and its community, and to keep > such ranting to myself. > > > Regards, > > Eshel > >