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Some (quite long) time ago one of you guys helped me out, and I hope I can get a hint from you again. I am on Linux (Debian 12), Emacs from the repository (28.2), and I am using a standard keyboard without num block, but a menu key on the right corner next to the Ctrl key. Since the Alt key on the left to the Space bar is the only Alt/Meta key it is quite "interesting" which grips I have to manage using the key bindings with M/Alt with the left hand. For the Ctrl key I use the hand which is not busy with letter keys, e.g. for C-x s I take the rigth Ctrl key and type the x and s with the left hand, and I think that would be nice for the M/Alt key, too. As default the menu key on the right produces the M-x prefix, but I don't need it that often, so I would like to reduce this to M only (e.g. for M-f, M-d, M-w, M > etc.). Searching the web about this there are some interesting solutions, but I didn't find a solution for my idea, additional there seem to be different ways for Emacs on different systems like Windows, MacOS and Linux. And because I am not into writing software and have no idea about lisp programming, I am a bit helpless here. An entry in my .emacs file, which I tryed, does not work: (global-set-key [menu] 'meta) Best regards, Andreas Diener