From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: raw-byte and char-table
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:05:43 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <tl7hbij49rc.fsf@m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8362z0ndke.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:08:33 +0300)
In article <8362z0ndke.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> > > > (aref CHAR-TABLE (unibyte-char-to-multibyte #xA0))
> > > > (aset CHAR-TABLE (unibyte-char-to-multibyte #xA0) VALUE)
> >
> > > One could also use the codepoint of the corresponding eight-bit
> > > character directly, no?
> >
> > Like #x3FFFA0? It's possible but should not be recommended.
> Why not recommended? We already document in the ELisp manual the
> codepoints to which we map eight-bit bytes. It's not a secret, it's
> in the open.
Number like #x3FFFA0 is so criptic. The function name
unibyte-char-to-multibyte is also not ideal, but I think
it's better than #x3FFFA0.
> > As for a display table, we have one more problem. Currently
> > an element of a display table is nil or a vector of
> > characters. To directly output the byte #xA0 to a terminal,
> > perhaps the correct way is to set (unibyte-char-to-multibyte
> > #xA0) in a vector. That way, we can specify any byte(s) to
> > send to a terminal.
> >
> > But, then, what is the semantics of the vector element
> > (unibyte-char-to-multibyte #xA0) for a graphic device? What
> > should we display for CHAR if we setup
> > standard-display-table as this?
> >
> > (aset standard-display-table
> > CHAR (vector (unibyte-char-to-multibyte #xA0)))
> There's something I'm missing here: why text terminals and graphics
> terminals are different in this context? It seems that you are saying
> that was is correct for a text terminal does not have a clear
> semantics for a GUI terminal,
Yes.
> but why?
What we can send to a terminal is a byte. So, by having a
method of specifying any raw byte directly, we can send all
possible bytes to a terminal. For a graphic device, the
natural interpretation corresponding to "directly sending a
raw byte" is, I think, "directly specifying a glyph code".
But, to specify all possible glyph codes, 0x80..0xFF is not
enough.
---
Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org
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Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-24 1:11 raw-byte and char-table Kenichi Handa
2010-08-24 3:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-24 4:29 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-24 17:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-25 4:05 ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2010-08-26 0:01 ` Stefan Monnier
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2010-08-26 2:58 MON KEY
2010-08-26 3:34 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-26 5:30 ` MON KEY
2010-08-26 6:48 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-26 7:09 ` Miles Bader
2010-08-27 3:30 ` MON KEY
2010-08-27 3:45 ` Kenichi Handa
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