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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Usage of standard-display-table in MSDOS
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:24:13 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <tl7hbic3kj6.fsf@m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83y6brkxqe.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 28 Aug 2010 10:22:33 +0300)

In article <83y6brkxqe.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> > From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> > Cc:
> emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:18:02
> +0900
> > 
> > In article <837hjcm9cw.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii
> <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> > 
> > > > > "Display characters in the range L to H
> literally."
> > > > 
> > > > > The "literally" part is no longer true, is it?
> > > > 
> > > > What's the meaning of "literally" when a display
> table > > > element is [#xA0]?
> > 
> > > It means that a literal byte 0xA0 is sent to the
> terminal.
> > 
> > From which document, can we get that interpretation?

> That's my understanding of the word "literally".

But, how do you apply that understanding to this element:
  [#x100]

> Plus,
> standard-display-8bit worked like that in previous
> versions of Emacs.  If we mean for it to do something
> else, we should amend the docstring.

The current behaviour of standard-display-8bit is the
natural consequence of the fact that we changed character
codes.  But, perhaps we should explain what "literally"
really means.

> > (aset standard-display-table (unibyte-char-to-multibyte
> #xA0) > (vector (unibyte-char-to-multibyte #xA0)))

> Shouldn't standard-display-8bit be modified to use this, instead of
> what it does now?  It seems like it was previously used to work around
> the terminal encoding, but that fire escape was plumbed in Emacs 23.
> Perhaps we should reinstate that feature?

Yes.  That's why I wrote:

handa> Should we change the above code and all other codes setting
handa> 0x80th..0xA0th elements of a display table?

eliz> Yes.  IMO, we should consistently use the codepoints of eight-bit
eliz> characters in all char-tables.

handa>Ok, if Yidong and Stefan agree too, I'll work on it.

I have not yet got any response but have started the work.

> And there's still the question of what to do with the
> fragment in standard-display-european-internal that uses
> standard-display-8bit.  Should it be removed, or should it
> be rewritten in some way?

The docstring of standard-display-european says it's
semi-obsolete.  But, as far as we provide that function, we
should modify the current code to do what expected.

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org



  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-30  2:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-23 12:44 Usage of standard-display-table in MSDOS Kenichi Handa
2010-08-24  5:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-24 11:13   ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-24 16:51     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-25 13:04       ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-25 18:09         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-26 15:26           ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-26 16:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-27 13:35               ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-27 16:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-27 10:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-27 11:44   ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-27 14:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-28  4:18       ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-28  7:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-30  2:24           ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2010-08-30  3:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-01  3:21             ` Kenichi Handa
2010-09-01  9:20               ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-01 23:33               ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-02  5:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-02  5:20                 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-09-04 22:54                   ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-06  1:30                     ` Kenichi Handa
2010-09-02 12:32                 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-09-04 23:32                   ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-05  5:30                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-06  5:14                     ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-29 10:16         ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-29 11:21           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-29 11:49             ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-29 13:06               ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-29 13:50                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-29 14:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-07 21:11                 ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-09 11:57                   ` Kenichi Handa

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