From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 07:27:33 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87d3w2ncqs.fsf_-_@lola.goethe.zz> <87iq5py7xk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <871vcc4xhf.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83ljakliqt.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276381677 25880 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2010 22:27:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 13 00:27:55 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONZBD-0002qz-58 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 00:27:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59907 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONZBC-0007gi-Ah for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:27:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41944 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONZB7-0007ga-76 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:27:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONZB6-0008J4-1s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:27:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]:50498) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONZB2-0008IW-C8; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:27:44 -0400 Original-Received: from rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.123]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id o5CMRdlb004224; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 07:27:39 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp4.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id o5CMRcR7003198; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 07:27:38 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp4.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id o5CMRcDm004002; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 07:27:38 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONZAr-0006Pn-B0; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 07:27:33 +0900 In-Reply-To: <83ljakliqt.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:09:46 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125865 Archived-At: This is not directly related to the current topic but... In article <83ljakliqt.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii writes: > The current Emacs supports two text directions and two paragraph > directions. Both can be either left-to-right (L2R) or right-to-left > (R2L). > Paragraph direction determines whether the text starts at the left > window margin or at the right margin. Text direction determines > the direction in which text is read. How about using the word "orientation" for "paragraph direction" to avoid confusion? I my experiense, many people misunderstood that even latin letters are written from right to left in a paragraph (or a buffer) of "r2l direction". After I started using the word "orientation", it seems that such miunderstandings decreased. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org