From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4157: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_bug#4157:_23.1.50; _faulty_character_character?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?isation_for_=E4?= Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:33:37 +0900 Message-ID: References: <57B19222-57FF-40C8-8C94-8D19E1281D14@Freenet.DE> <14A765B4-9EAF-46AC-BEBC-6B0A664BA03A@Freenet.DE> <56EC0D72-D541-470F-9FAB-2F766BD45601@Freenet.DE> Reply-To: Kenichi Handa , 4157@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1251373646 524 80.91.229.12 (27 Aug 2009 11:47:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:47:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 4157@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Peter Dyballa Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 27 13:47:19 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MgdRa-0001up-CT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:47:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59980 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MgdRZ-0001sU-QO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:47:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MgdRW-0001sP-1s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MgdRR-0001s4-Oq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:47:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33094 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MgdRR-0001s1-HR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:46:57 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:50427) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MgdRQ-0007PO-St for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:46:57 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n7RBkrV9027252; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:46:54 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7RBe4Ex026178; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:40:04 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:40:04 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:40:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4157 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 4157-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4157.125137282225274 (code B ref 4157); Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:40:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4157) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 27 Aug 2009 11:33:42 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp (mx1.aist.go.jp [150.29.246.133]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n7RBXdGh025266 for <4157@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:33:41 -0700 Original-Received: from rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.123]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n7RBXcxk029216; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:33:38 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp4.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n7RBXcDC008862; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:33:38 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp4.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n7RBXcxI011432; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:33:38 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MgdEX-0002cp-V1; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:33:37 +0900 In-Reply-To: (message from Peter Dyballa on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:50:33 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:47:01 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:30610 Archived-At: In article , Peter Dyballa= writes: >>> And ucs-normalize is auto-loaded! > > > > When is it loaded? > Actually never! There are just precautions taken. When I deliberately=20= =20 > set file-name-coding-system to utf-8-hfs in my init file, GNU Emacs=20=20 > stopped to initialise with an error message about an undefined=20=20 > encoding. So ucs-normalize obviously was not loaded. I added a=20=20 > (require 'ucs-normalize) =E2=80=93 and it works! It works exceptionally w= ell:=20=20 > i-search for =C3=A4 or =C3=A6 or =C3=B8 in file names works. > That's really good work! That's good. Perhaps, we should add autoload cookie to utf-8-hfs. > What I wonder is why so many different font encodings are used when=20=20 > characters are described. Wouldn't it make sense to use an iso10646-1=20= =20 > encoding in an UTF-8 environment for characters from 8-bit ISO=20=20 > encodings? Wouldn't it free resources when less fonts are used? Or is=20= =20 > it my fault that I include definitions for ISO encodings in my font set? I don't understand what you are saying. Please tell more precisely what these mean: o font encoding o characters from 8-bit ISO encodings o include definitions for ISO encodings in my font set? --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org