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From: LdBeth <andpuke@foxmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, LdBeth <andpuke@foxmail.com>,
	larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Gnus; Restore multi encoding support for NNTP
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2022 17:26:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <tencent_93A318233A0C56047F596EFADD748E4A3D08@qq.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83mtkfg7g1.fsf@gnu.org>

>>>>> In <83mtkfg7g1.fsf@gnu.org> 
>>>>>	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

>> Eli> If by "using UTF-8 internally" you mean the internal representation of
>> Eli> buffer text and strings, then encoding is still needed for correct
>> Eli> handling of codepoints outside of Unicode.
>> 
>> Gnus already uses `utf-8-emacs' coding to save the newsrc.eld file for
>> a while.  According to the Elisp manual, that is the coding system
>> that can handle the internal codepoints used by Emacs.

Eli> You are saying that encoding by utf-8-emacs is a no-op?  AFAIR, that's
Eli> not true.

I mean, there should be no problem `prin1' any emacs strings to a file
saved using utf-8-emacs coding, and correctly `read' them back given
the file has `-*- coding: utf-8-emacs -*-` header line.

Encoding by utf-8-emacs was used under the assumption that Gnus from a
much older version of Emacs can safely read the file. By treating
everything as UTF-8, Gnus has already broke the compatibility with
older versions (.newsrc.eld contains wrongly encoded characters cannot
work with older version that can do the correct encode/decode of none
UTF-8 group names), so I think there has no point to continue restrict
the charset of .newsrc.eld to be ASCII readable.

And so this patch can take the advantages of both the UTF-8 internal
string encoding without the redundancy of book keeping an extra
translation table, which probably can not be as good as the approach
taken by this patch.

-- 
LDB



  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-01  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-27  9:42 Gnus; Restore multi encoding support for NNTP LdBeth
2021-12-27 12:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-27 12:41   ` LdBeth
2021-12-27 12:57     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-27 13:58       ` LdBeth
2021-12-28  3:17         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-12-28 14:31           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-28 15:40             ` LdBeth
2021-12-28 14:29         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-28 15:43           ` LdBeth
2021-12-30 10:23         ` [PATCH] " LdBeth
2021-12-30 14:49           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-30 14:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-30 15:18             ` LdBeth
2021-12-31 15:59               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-01  2:11                 ` LdBeth
2022-01-01  3:32                   ` LdBeth
2022-01-03 11:18                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-03 11:25                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-03 14:00                       ` LdBeth
2022-01-01  6:58                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-01  8:34                     ` LdBeth
2022-01-01  8:56                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-01  9:26                         ` LdBeth [this message]
2022-01-01  9:35                           ` Eli Zaretskii

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