From: LdBeth <andpuke@foxmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, LdBeth <andpuke@foxmail.com>,
larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Gnus; Restore multi encoding support for NNTP
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2022 17:26:00 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <tencent_93A318233A0C56047F596EFADD748E4A3D08@qq.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83mtkfg7g1.fsf@gnu.org>
>>>>> In <83mtkfg7g1.fsf@gnu.org>
>>>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> Eli> If by "using UTF-8 internally" you mean the internal representation of
>> Eli> buffer text and strings, then encoding is still needed for correct
>> Eli> handling of codepoints outside of Unicode.
>>
>> Gnus already uses `utf-8-emacs' coding to save the newsrc.eld file for
>> a while. According to the Elisp manual, that is the coding system
>> that can handle the internal codepoints used by Emacs.
Eli> You are saying that encoding by utf-8-emacs is a no-op? AFAIR, that's
Eli> not true.
I mean, there should be no problem `prin1' any emacs strings to a file
saved using utf-8-emacs coding, and correctly `read' them back given
the file has `-*- coding: utf-8-emacs -*-` header line.
Encoding by utf-8-emacs was used under the assumption that Gnus from a
much older version of Emacs can safely read the file. By treating
everything as UTF-8, Gnus has already broke the compatibility with
older versions (.newsrc.eld contains wrongly encoded characters cannot
work with older version that can do the correct encode/decode of none
UTF-8 group names), so I think there has no point to continue restrict
the charset of .newsrc.eld to be ASCII readable.
And so this patch can take the advantages of both the UTF-8 internal
string encoding without the redundancy of book keeping an extra
translation table, which probably can not be as good as the approach
taken by this patch.
--
LDB
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-01 9:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-27 9:42 Gnus; Restore multi encoding support for NNTP LdBeth
2021-12-27 12:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-27 12:41 ` LdBeth
2021-12-27 12:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-27 13:58 ` LdBeth
2021-12-28 3:17 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-12-28 14:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-28 15:40 ` LdBeth
2021-12-28 14:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-28 15:43 ` LdBeth
2021-12-30 10:23 ` [PATCH] " LdBeth
2021-12-30 14:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-30 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-30 15:18 ` LdBeth
2021-12-31 15:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-01 2:11 ` LdBeth
2022-01-01 3:32 ` LdBeth
2022-01-03 11:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-03 11:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-03 14:00 ` LdBeth
2022-01-01 6:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-01 8:34 ` LdBeth
2022-01-01 8:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-01 9:26 ` LdBeth [this message]
2022-01-01 9:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
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