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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284474 Archived-At: >>>>> In >>>>> Stefan Kangas wrote: Stefan> I would strongly advise against including either `edt' or Stefan> `autoarg-mode' in a list of modes to recommend to a beginner. Right, there're referenced only for "historical significance" and could only be interested by writers of emulation modes. ldb> ** tab-bar-mode, tab-line-mode ldb> Tabbar emulation. Stefan> I don't use it much. Is it polished enough? It is quite popular among people migrated from other editors. There's even a popular extension been made based on that package. https://github.com/manateelazycat/awesome-tab ldb> ** kinsoku ldb> Avoid certain characters appear at beg-of-line.. Stefan> I don't understand what this does or when I would want to use it from Stefan> reading it's docstring. Probably it should be better documented. Stefan> The name is also... confusing. When filling a paragraph, you probably won't like commas or periods to appear at the beginning of a line, or left parentheses hanging at the end of line. The rabbit-hole went straight on like a tunnel for some way , and then dipped suddenly down even if I fell off the top of the house!' ( Which was very likely true.) The above cases can be handled correctly by `M-q' though. But certain languages like Japanese can not be handled correctly with the default behavior `fill-paragraph'. This package takes extra care to these language. ldb> * List of interesting editing customize variables ldb> ldb> This variables are worth to have a look at. They may improve your ldb> editing experience a little if the default value of the variables ldb> are changed for your specific needs. ldb> ldb> + show-trailing-whitespace ldb> + track-eol ldb> + colon-double-space ldb> + tab-always-indent ldb> + kill-do-not-save-duplicates ldb> + kill-read-only-ok ldb> + kill-whole-line ldb> + require-final-newline Stefan> Sounds basically good at a glance, with some exceptions: ldb> + case-fold-search Stefan> I think we have commands for this, so I'd not specifically Stefan> recommend new users to fiddle with it. Right, but we could provide a brief list for useful toggles. ldb> + set-mark-command-repeat-pop Stefan> I don't understand what it does and I doubt a beginner would Stefan> either. Right, this would requires knowledge about mark-ring, should just leave this to advanced users. -- LDB