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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1658892728; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=ZxwC4/OjEUWcc0dJYiUQNJlOEYcAutAsKnpkKA318QY=; b=V6MZnS4jMHBdE80fxJGSFbGwx5xuQ5voEDfdTbUNdud3mAMuvbEjU+zumn6TS1ugmOYr6B /57RYnUH3MeADrR4DFjknx0hWBt/7O569s3P8QM++Tt7vfejl+btgmH/5r8xZPAc1I2yb4 hfLy5SCfPrcX+evaaCAr/hOTcBmsmOEWAJlm2PR1XtjXYJWKNxV86fS1d1itZc/zG0BkUP 7gVY5vtcJU76fYUa2HvxZgjGDhuVbGe7H/cZ0jR2XbO5pf0furZhvIJJzCimnFMANf1EU2 Saq5K17MPHLbQ0D+UIgwvcuy6dNY3mnuLpU3IHHah0/Fy/ijyssN4Usc7jtjQg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1658892728; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=RfHfPgfrK/cGThNdu1ODX6dvY95MJ06WM09vbByHR/4IwxObteBgLjjamMfSJdt+chBV8/ Zpt5GjFxcrskjZeYU6DLMPf2K7+rjkpXdzUd4pOzPF4MeMCk6+HAMbI7IuYiV4pKIDx0w6 1MKOd8SMS1wDAd+IQOalEW29JJvEbb4FniowOmwpUxC4MVR4Chl40FsXGs3FEu25meHQhX i8rtdOkB8kEXUl3bPKLn5ysDHw9934efOAc2V/njksNvb/dJlpNo0cVpkyKKy7YB598rMx RY6gW3dKHi0Sc/wX8S114ChEaqfZm0BjCr8TbKqr7LXndUMXx0G6VjHxE5pt4g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 3.77 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4393CD8A8 X-Spam-Score: 3.77 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: ArzOsnVE8y4k On 26/07/2022 19:59, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > > I am attaching a tentative patch that will make Org export remove > zero-width spaces when those spaces actually separate the object > boundaries. Ihor, I have realized that you did not address another use case: zero width spaces may be added to suppress activation of markup. In such cases they are in the middle of text objects, but they should be removed. Switch to the *​scratch​* buffer. I consider zero width spaces as a workaround that is acceptable in some cases but awkward in others. It is tricky to deal with it in some general way. I do not agree with the stance "just maintain status quo" expressed in response to Juan Manuel Macías. On zero width spaces and Org syntax. Fri, 03 Dec 2021 12:48:16 +0000 https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87ilw5yhv3.fsf@posteo.net/ An idea. At certain moment I was surprised that markup markers are not activated at the borders of export snippets: intra@@org:@@*w*@@org:@@ord It is not really lightweight markup but at least it is purely ASCII and visible by default. It might be breaking change in some edge cases. I am unsure concerning increasing complexity of the parser. Macro markers {{{macro}}} have similar behavior.