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From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: call for more ert tests
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:31:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <t3li5z76ux.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)


There are a lot of bugs in Emacs. [1]
To me, too many of these feel like breakage of things that used to work
before, because of implementation changes, or whatever.

One thing that could help reduce this is more unit tests.
If you haven't used it, ERT makes it pretty easy to write tests.
Of course, many aspects of Emacs's behaviour are not easy to test (GUI
stuff, etc.), but many are. See test/automated/ for examples. [2]

For example, package.el seems like something that should have a test
suite.

So if you fix a bug, please consider adding a unit test to make sure it
does not come back. Or if you rewrite a lisp package, consider adding
tests at the same time to check that obvious functionality still works.

I know writing tests is maybe not as interesting as writing shiny new
features, but I think it will save work in the long run.


[1] E.g. http://debbugs.gnu.org/rrd/emacs.html

[2] I think it is a bit embarrassing that the limited test suite that we
have has been broken for months, though. Bugs 13064, 13662.



             reply	other threads:[~2013-06-24 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-24 17:31 Glenn Morris [this message]
2013-06-24 18:21 ` call for more ert tests Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 18:24   ` Lennart Borgman
2013-07-01 11:35     ` Andreas Röhler
2013-07-01 16:14       ` Stefan Merten
2013-07-01 16:35         ` Andreas Röhler
2013-07-01 16:37       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-01 17:35         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-01 18:44           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-07-01 19:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-01 20:34         ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-06-24 18:33   ` Sebastian Wiesner
2013-06-24 18:40     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 18:55       ` Sebastian Wiesner
2013-06-24 19:16         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 19:20           ` Lennart Borgman
2013-06-24 19:35           ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-06-24 19:59             ` John Wiegley
2013-06-25  1:21               ` Leo Liu
2013-06-25  2:44                 ` John Wiegley
2013-06-25  3:02                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-25  2:31             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-06-25 14:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-25 11:06             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-06-25 12:11               ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-25 15:15               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-25 19:18                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-06-25 20:12                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-25 20:36                   ` Sebastian Wiesner
2013-06-25 20:44                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-06-28 15:01                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-28 15:39                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 15:41                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-06-26  9:03                     ` Julien Danjou
2013-06-26  5:12                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-06-24 19:46   ` Glenn Morris
2013-06-25 13:33     ` Noah Lavine
2013-06-25 17:18   ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-06-25 18:53     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-25 20:29       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-07-01 11:45   ` Andreas Röhler
2013-07-01 12:43     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-01 14:13       ` Andreas Röhler
2013-06-24 18:29 ` David Engster
2013-06-24 18:38   ` Glenn Morris
2013-06-24 19:04     ` David Engster
2013-06-25 22:15 ` Daniel Hackney
2013-06-26  9:22 ` Stefan Merten
2013-06-26 12:17   ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-06-26 15:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-26 16:03       ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-06-26 16:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-26 19:01           ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-06-26 19:10             ` Michael Albinus
2013-06-26 19:34               ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-06-26 19:56                 ` Michael Albinus
2013-06-26 19:28             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-26 19:46             ` Teemu Likonen
2013-06-26 15:50   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-29 15:11     ` Stefan Merten

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