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From: "Paul Edwards" <kerravon@nosppaam.w3.to>
Subject: Re: simple editor required
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:19:36 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <suGIa.1120$rN.11369@news-server.bigpond.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 84wufgke19.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de

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"Kai Großjohann" <kai.grossjohann@gmx.net> wrote in message news:84wufgke19.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de...
> "Paul Edwards" <kerravon@nosppaam.w3.to> writes:
>
> > If I am at the beginning of the "cccc" line and I hit enter,
> > emacs is inspired to indent cccc to be under bbbb.  I don't
> > want that, I want cccc to stay where it is.  If I wanted cccc
> > to be indented I would do something, e.g. press tab or hit
> > spaces.
>
> Okay, so if the previous line exists and is not blank, then indent
> the new line to the previous line after RET.

> Yeah, I'm afraid you'll have to write your own indentation function.

Wow.  How does everyone else cope with text mode?  This is
basic logical indentation, that comes with micro-emacs.  There's
no existing equivalent?

> Maybe this one?
>
> (defun pe-indent-relative ()
>   "Like `indent-relative' but don't indent after blank line."

Actually, I don't mind it indenting after a blank line, micro-emacs
does that.  But micro-emacs won't indent the CURRENT
line when I hit enter at the BEGINNING of the line.  Emacs not
only inserts a blank line (as I wanted), but is also inspired to
indent the current line for no reason whatsoever.  And when it
is at the beginning of the file, and thus doesn't even have any
previous line to match up with, it still forges ahead and decides
I must want to indent the CURRENT line (with text on it) by
8 characters or 1 tab, as well as putting in the blank line.

>   (when (save-excursion
>           (and (zerop (forward-line -1))
>                (not (looking-at "\s-*$"))))
>     (indent-relative-maybe)))
>
> (defun pe-text-setup ()
>   (setq indent-line-function 'pe-indent-relative))
>
> (add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'pe-text-setup)
>
> Maybe it works, but I haven't tested it.

Thanks!  I'll give it a go.

So what about when you are editting text, and it is lined up in
semi-paragraphs, e.g.

My doctor's details are:
  Name = Fred
  Phone = 1234


My dentist's details are:
  Name = Mary
  Phone = 5678

And the cursor happens to be at the beginning of "My dentist's details"
and you decide that you want an extra blank line to separate doctor
from dentist, so you hit enter.  You're not disturbed that emacs is
inspired to not only insert a blank line, but also to indent "My dentist"
in a couple of characters, to line up with "Phone = "?

I wouldn't mind if I was ABOVE "my dentist" and it decided to indent
a blank line a couple of characters in case I wanted to add more
details, but moving "My dentist" from its current indentation level is
definitely anti-social.

BFN.  Paul.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-20 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.7519.1054976930.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-06-07 10:19 ` simple editor required Paul Edwards
2003-06-07 10:49   ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-06-07 11:19   ` lawrence mitchell
2003-06-07 12:35     ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-10 13:40     ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-10 14:19       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-11  9:23         ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-10 17:10       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-11  9:18         ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-11 11:38           ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-11 14:47           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-12 10:55             ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-12 11:24               ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-12 12:51                 ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-12 13:35                   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-16 10:31                     ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-16 10:47                       ` Sam Halliday
2003-06-17 13:57                         ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-17 16:31                           ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-16 13:14                       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-16 13:48                       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-16 15:10                         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-17 14:05                           ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-17 16:14                             ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-17 22:58                               ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-18  9:53                               ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-17 16:32                             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-18  9:48                               ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-18 10:19                                 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-19 10:26                                   ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-19 15:38                                     ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-20 10:13                                       ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-20 14:40                                         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-20 16:19                                           ` Paul Edwards [this message]
2003-06-20 18:08                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-23 10:45                                               ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-23 20:18                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                                                   ` <cNKJa.34$g_1.1140@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
     [not found]                                                     ` <848yrsgd4s.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de>
     [not found]                                                       ` <RPWJa.1093$g_1.9591@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
2003-06-24 15:25                                                         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-24 22:26                                                           ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-24 23:05                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-25  7:51                                                               ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-25  6:17                                                             ` Kai Großjohann
     [not found]                                                             ` <843chyfzpp.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de >
     [not found]                                                               ` <tscKa.709$9g2.6501@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
2003-06-25 16:48                                                                 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-30  9:58                                                                 ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-20 20:52                                             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-23 10:46                                           ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-23 13:45                                             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-23 22:55                                               ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-24  7:16                                                 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-17 16:33                             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-18  9:49                               ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-17 16:58                             ` Kevin Dziulko
2003-06-19 16:03                             ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-17 13:59                         ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-17 16:06                           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-18  9:50                             ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-18 10:18                               ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-19 10:32                                 ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-19 19:32                                   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-20  9:58                                     ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-18 18:46                               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-12 16:03               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-07 15:06   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-07 16:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <mailman.8100.1055869193.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-06-17 22:53 ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-17 22:56   ` David Kastrup
2003-06-17 23:04     ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-18  7:26   ` Kai Großjohann
     [not found] <mailman.7691.1055299124.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-06-11  2:57 ` Johan Bockgård
2003-06-11 14:49 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] <mailman.7200.1054643007.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-06-03 13:51 ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-03 14:26   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-11  1:53     ` Ben Key
2003-06-11 15:03       ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-06-03 15:06   ` Peter Lee
2003-06-03 15:39   ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-06-03 18:22   ` kgold
2003-06-03 20:13   ` Jon Kåre Hellan
2003-06-05 17:12   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-06  6:15     ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-06 11:44       ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-06-06 18:00       ` Harry Putnam
     [not found]       ` <mailman.7492.1054922593.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-06-06 20:12         ` Peter Lee
2003-06-07  1:36           ` Harry Putnam
     [not found]           ` <mailman.7510.1054949869.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-06-07  2:44             ` Peter Lee
2003-06-09 20:54           ` David Masterson
2003-06-11 21:03           ` kgold
2003-06-11 22:11             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]             ` <mailman.7746.1055369497.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-06-12  0:28               ` Benjamin Rutt
2003-06-12  1:05                 ` Kin Cho
2003-06-12  4:05                   ` Benjamin Rutt
2003-06-12  7:11                     ` Kin Cho
2003-06-12 16:23                       ` Peter Lee
2003-06-12 19:37                       ` Benjamin Rutt
2003-06-12  4:55             ` Galen Boyer
2003-06-12  7:18               ` Kin Cho
2003-06-07  3:43         ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-07  9:28           ` Stein A. Stromme
     [not found]       ` <mailman.7449.1054900407.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-06-07  3:49         ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-07  9:08           ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-06-08 10:19       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-03 11:27 Dmitri.Minaev
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-06-03 10:46 Paul Edwards
2003-06-03 12:19 ` Kevin Dziulko
2003-06-03 15:12 ` Bruce Ingalls
2003-06-03 23:22   ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-04 12:57     ` Bruce Ingalls
2003-06-05 14:10       ` Paul Edwards
2003-06-05 17:08     ` Kai Großjohann

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