From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Will Parsons Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: how to determine if to reply by CC as well Date: 19 Aug 2014 14:25:30 GMT Message-ID: References: <8af43eeb-8822-4b82-88f3-a31c29276bcf@googlegroups.com> <87bnrknhve.fsf@debian.uxu> <7zvbpr8qxe.fsf@example.com> <87sikv9cal.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> <87ha1azyrj.fsf@debian.uxu> <7zoavin7e5.fsf@example.com> <87wqa6hjge.fsf@debian.uxu> <8661hq3amv.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwb1fom7.fsf@debian.uxu> <87ha19s27e.fsf@debian.uxu> Reply-To: gyliamos@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1408458681 7817 80.91.229.3 (19 Aug 2014 14:31:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:31:21 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 19 16:31:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XJkRQ-0007fO-JO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:31:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51444 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XJkRP-0003yq-UF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:31:15 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 59 Original-X-Trace: individual.net NU0tmaCfppOTRllgVvyqPwikELIZ5c57Njbc2CbtQgqQ6t+oxz Cancel-Lock: sha1:NS4fkwq+ho+XOfvHQzXUfk3qvok= User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:207022 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99299 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg wrote: > Bob Proulx writes: > >> It is posted on the web page. >> >> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ >> >> Support >> >> To ask for help with GNU Emacs, use the mailing list >> help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org or the newsgroup gnu.emacs.help. >> The mailing list and newsgroup are linked: messages >> posted on one appear on the other as well. > > OK! I see, there is also this page with more details: > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs > > This problem doesn't seem to be mentioned, though. > > Now, this is a delicate situation - by mentioning it, > maybe *more* people will start posting without joining? You seem to think that not using the mailing list is undesirable - I disagree. > But, in the spirit of the FSF, perhaps it should be all > spelled out? Like, > > "We recommend you to either use the newsgroup, or to > join the mailing list. However, you can also get help > simply by sending questions to help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org. > If you choose to do that, we ask you to mention that > you are not on the list. That way, we can send replies > to your mail as well as to the members of the list." > > Excursion: Why do people don't want to join? Probably > because they think their inboxes will be flooded with > stuff they (as beginners) won't understand. I use Gnus > so I don't know, but even for gmail and such, aren't > there ways to split the mail logically into folders, > where 1000 mails are just a non-disturbing one-liner > "help-gnu-emacs(1000)"? Perhaps a link to a guide that > helps you do it for the more common (non-hacker) > clients and web-solutions would help. I am one of those who prefer to follow the newsgroup, and not sign up for a mailing list. Yes, I don't want my mailbox to fill up with a lot a mail that I'll have do deal with (if only to delete it), and as I have more that 30 years experience as a professional programmer, I hardly think I classify as a "beginner". NNTP is much easier to deal with IMO than mailing lists, and I generally prefer to use Gmane rather than signing up for mailing lists if I possibly can. The fact that I follow gnu.emacs.help rather than a mailing list is a *good* thing. -- Will