From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joost Kremers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: beginner questions Date: 1 Oct 2013 20:02:46 GMT Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380657921 30486 80.91.229.3 (1 Oct 2013 20:05:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 20:05:21 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 01 22:05:26 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VR6CC-0003bv-9K for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 22:05:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60822 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VR6CB-0001gx-QF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 16:05:23 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Trace: individual.net wrgCEj6WzN3Fuxgcw1czUgJg+nCBPOx6aVE80Ar+Z9tKPEuqj8 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ee4EqsXAuLK0+dBCyQ6Hqk+zFgg= Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Editor: Emacs of course! User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.0-18 (Linux) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:201510 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93779 Archived-At: EN:SiS(9) Rustom Mody wrote: > Finally switched to vi. It showed me: > [[http://cs.brown.edu/people/pw/papers/monist.ps<200e>][Philosophical diffs between OOp and FP]] > > 200e??? What the hell... > Asked emacs to describe-char (the nothing at that point!) and that is something called 'left-to-right-mark' > > So humble request: Please show what is there! Well, if you google left-to-right-mark, you'll see that it is an "invisible formatting character", which means that it shouldn't be displayed. So arguably vi was doing the wrong thing when it showed you the hex code. Now, obviously something like this is confusing when one doesn't know what's going on, but I don't think Emacs is doing the wrong thing here. -- Joost Kremers joostkremers@fastmail.fm Selbst in die Unterwelt dringt durch Spalten Licht