From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ilya Zakharevich Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Using Emacs on small-display devices Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 22:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department. Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291824691 6814 80.91.229.12 (8 Dec 2010 16:11:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:11:31 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 17:11:25 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQMc0-0004mr-CL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:11:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35178 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQMbz-00030E-Fp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:11:23 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 38 Injection-Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 22:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="LlLjF8LevGdIZWbTvv+SXA"; logging-data="2470"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19WTuIe7jWPfP9mEHgSjcMh" User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1pl1 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:iNxHmlkjG0YzeF+7VoWmcpofuQk= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:178504 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:75588 Archived-At: On 2010-05-30, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I think the important things are the following abilities: >> a) separate the message area and minibuffer; > I don't think you can do that nowadays, although you get partway there > by defadvicing `message' and then using something like tooltips for the > echo area. Interesting... Is the C code sanitized enough so that messaging from it would be adviced too? >> c) put a "pseudo-menubar" icon on modeline: clicking on it pops up a >> popup-equivalent of menubar (i.e., vertical vs horizontal layout); > > That can be done fairly easily and cleanly (the mode-line already has > some menus when you click for example on the major mode name). > The "full menu bar, with different layout" is already available on > C-mouse-3 by default, so you'd just have to bind it to a mode-line button. Good, I somehow forgot about this popup! >> d) ability to make a minibuffer overlaid "on top of" modeline, so it >> does not take place when not needed. > > This one seems difficult to do. Thinking about it more: minibuffer is ALREADY of variable height. The default is 1. What I propose is essentially making the default height 0... >> e) ability to make emacs full-screen (no border, no taskbar visible); > I think we already support that cleanly, tho it depends on cooperation > from the WM, of course. Is it bound to a keypress? F11? ;-) Thanks, Ilya