From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ilya Zakharevich Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: In emacs 23 compile-mode doesn't recognize (c)perl error messages Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department. Message-ID: References: <6d2cb724-900e-4e8a-9145-8b271037c8e2@z24g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <5397B484-241E-4DF2-AA2C-F2AA26C464E0@web.de> <4681fb35-bcea-4553-af4c-8621af25055d@11g2000yqp.googlegroups.com> <6c3419ad-8de9-4e56-bab0-23ab0d7d8135@x37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> <6dc20353-5319-4dab-a7fe-9b73c741fbcd@e8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1255768962 22645 80.91.229.12 (17 Oct 2009 08:42:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 08:42:42 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 17 10:42:31 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Mz4rt-0000VY-Ci for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:42:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44311 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mz4rs-0007Ac-AZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:42:28 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!feeder.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 51 Original-X-Trace: news.eternal-september.org U2FsdGVkX1+56dCXAA8ISsJh26RLtXbq77bFMi7LRQnW1iVLQuauol5/I8lZaHD6+4LqdIAAKO6kBlZs6oAlO8oJKOhxh+3kZqF1qnrWalSPdyB/fBZwWDyGDcdJNxc0MLQdecEMyncubBgUeuiyhg== Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@eternal-september.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:45:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+W0khDVDBHF8+fE7TwEUIPcwEU5aMBbwI= Cancel-Lock: sha1:L9Kf2FS+AwC+tbtozTKmB+ErKI0= User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1pl1 (Linux) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:173970 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:69055 Archived-At: On 2009-10-17, LanX wrote: > Well do you really question the benefits of modularizations and > plugins? :-) > Modularizing would lower the danger to break the whole package To modularize, one needs to define boundaries > making changes and plugins easier. Given the amount of people's interest in changes and plugins, I doubt that the total of the work will be "easier". Given enough incentive, yes, I might spend 100 hours (estimated) to define demarkation lines, and document/interface all the stuff which crosses the lines. This would slow CPerl down, but with progress in CPUs, this may be forgotten. I just do not see how these hours could save 100s of hours of work for other people - to justify my investment. Without this, the incentive must be pretty tempting... > The actual trend is to develop perl-editors like Padre or Kephra which > are extendable with perl. Keep in mind that perl has - in a certain sense - very limited usability when working with strings. (See my interview with Perl journal for more details.) >> a) I do not find it outdated.  (IMO, HTML (and PDF) are not suitable >>                                 for documentation.) > > IIRC the info files for perl were very outdated (2001), very hard to > find and had even problems. The info files are as old as you make them. >> b) How would removing it help somebody? > > I've spend two days to find the (depressing) answer for a) > > http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=782153 > > That's too hard for a beginner... How should I fix it? (IIRC, the hard part is getting the word `pod2texi'. I expect that googling for this would quickly lead one to an answer.) Yours, Ilya