From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tyler Smith Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: special buffer frames again Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 18:11:03 GMT Organization: Business Internet Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178053047 16854 80.91.229.12 (1 May 2007 20:57:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:57:27 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 01 22:57:21 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HizPU-0001Z3-8i for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 May 2007 22:57:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HizVo-00013G-Kv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 May 2007 17:03:52 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newshub.stanford.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!nrc-news.nrc.ca!newsflash.concordia.ca!News.Dal.Ca!ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca!53ab2750!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1pl1 (Debian) Original-Lines: 36 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.177.91.235 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aliant.net Original-X-Trace: ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca 1178043063 142.177.91.235 (Tue, 01 May 2007 15:11:03 ADT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 15:11:03 ADT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:147840 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 01 May 2007 17:03:35 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43454 Archived-At: On 2007-05-01, Stefan Monnier wrote: > And more to the point, he specifically wants frames to be iconified > rather than deleted, so this issue of deletion/iconification is 100% > orthogonal. If 'he' refers to me, then no, iconification is the one thing I don't want to happen. > > But yes, most other users of Emacs use few frames. And I tend to believe > that they're more efficient for it, because unless you use a window-manager > that can be controlled efficiently from the keyboard (which basically > implies a tiled window-manager), managing frames is inefficient. > My window manager is Fluxbox, which allows for relatively efficient bouncing between frames, as well as between desktops. The one thing I can't do easily is recall an iconified frame. My typical work session on emacs lately involves an R buffer, a few R scripts, multiple .tex buffers, various log/message buffers associated with ESS and TeX, a shell buffer... This is usually displayed with one or two windows, as I transfer info between buffers, particularly between R and its scripts. iswitchb makes for relatively easy management of all the various buffers, but having a help or completion buffer split my screen is still annoying, and it would be much preferable to dump these temporary buffers into a temporary frame, as long as I can then control the behaviour of that frame. If you have any other suggestions that'd be great! Thanks, Tyler