From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: stan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: what is the important uses of emacs lisp? Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:15:40 -0400 Organization: home Message-ID: References: <86tzdeynug.fsf@timbral.net> <87iqttc06l.fsf@hubble.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219376450 28495 80.91.229.12 (22 Aug 2008 03:40:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:40:50 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 22 05:41:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KWNWp-0002ip-S0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 05:41:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46279 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KWNVs-00034a-DG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:40:36 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:20:11 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.0 (Linux) Original-Lines: 53 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.127.40.113 Original-X-Trace: sv3-O0x8rkkCncECppSvqQDC0c6luQbqCIKMxJRVsiLee27po5CugPZqLNx6rOgbdFR3KdlcSbvKEsYdJOJ!LjyAFC1upBiwKadsQQAJcOj4KNmSqlGCH9IR09vr8WX1OlMsDo9tUM3exF2YhZriflBLQqExlRo6!GoY/GQ== Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.39 Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:161529 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:56871 Archived-At: Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote: > Evans Winner writes: > >> Michael Ekstrand writes: < well done rant snipped> >> I'm on a bit of a rampage of late because I just took a new >> sysadmin job and found that the IT department policies are >> so absurdly strict that I can't even install my choice of >> text editors on the PC there. There is a short (very short) >> list of allowed software (almost all of it proprietary, of >> course) and I'm just stuck with it. There I am running a >> million-dollar system running (nee) OS/400 and on the front >> end I'm stuck with Windows and notepad.exe. Point... >> grunt... point... grunt. > > If you can have a program such as putty.exe authorized, that'd be an > escape route. Even without putty.exe, IIRC, telnet.exe comes standard > with MS-Windows. Otherwise, there are ssh-enabled java terminal > emulators running in web browsers... http://www.javassh.org/ Unfortunately in many cases IT departments are unwilling or incapable of distinguishing between people who search for the "any" key and kernel hackers. Consequently the level of nonesense can and does achieve scary levels. >> I'm so extremely sorry to have wasted everyone's time with >> all this ranting... though evidently not sorry enough to >> rethink sending it. > > That's ok, to share the feeling. ;-) I'll second the OK, and point out this rant has more meat than many posts on usenet. I don't know if it will help but there are entire newgroups that never rise to the level of your article. A mouse does have uses. Mine has a light on it that's just about perfect when stuff falls behind the monitor. John Dvorak once repeated a story about a service call from a woman having problems with her computer. She couldn't get it to start. As the story goes, after awhile the tech discovered the woman stepping on the mouse just like she did with the pedal on her sewing machine but the computer just wouldn't start. >> Anyway, long live Emacs lisp. >> >> Footnotes: >> [1] Not that I have anything against the mouse or GUIs; on >> the contrary I think they can be very useful. I just don't >> think they are a good substitute for those things... for >> which they are not a good substitute... like, er, most user >> input, for instance.